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Old 07-23-2004, 04:03 PM
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Google verses Microsoft

what are your thoughts on the looming Microsoft integrated searching enjoin release.
And goggles alleged plans to release Microsoft type programs accessible online for free.
Will the under dog provable or can we look to more antitrust suites in the future
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First of all, between Google and Microsoft, who exactly is the underdog? Sure, Microsoft's got the bling bling, holla holla fo' da dolla dolla bill, b'le dat! But Google's got the larger market share.

Personally, I think what we will see is something close to a 40/40/20 market share between Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo respectively, with dominance slowly shifting to Microsoft as they improve their service offering and integrate it with more stuff.
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With many a person quite upset with Google's lone dominance, I personally think it's great to have a tri-opoly.
There's nothing like competition
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:09 AM
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Does anyone feel goggle is a superior search enjoin or just the most useful of what is evadible. I myself am happy I can find what I want but am very unhappy how much time it can take to do so. I think ADAMWebDesign is correct that is until someone goes up to the next level and adds some unheard of functionality and results.
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Oh Yeah... bring on the competition!

Can Microsoft compete with Google? First .. understand that Microsoft's history is "we'll get involved in the area, only if the area generates 1,000,000,000 (1 billion) in revenues annually."

That being said, they are ready to get involved, but their long term goal is probably to provide their own search results so they can use their own AdWords/Overture equivalent.

Now... can they compete?
I'd have to say yes, but only if the right MS people are driving and those people are dedicated to producing a good search engine rather than just a bunch of acceptable results pages on which they can place their paid advertisement.

Okay... will they compete?
I doub't anybody knows the real answer (unless it a very few Microsoft insiders). For us, we just have to wait and see.

P.S. One indication of their plans may come from their "request for feedback" on their alpha version of their new search. A lot of us are providing feedback, but I've yet to get a response from Microsoft on any of that feedback......
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Now... can they compete?
I'd have to say yes, but only if the right MS people are driving and those people are dedicated to producing a good search engine rather than just a bunch of acceptable results pages on which they can place their paid advertisement.
Yes. There's the rub. The good news is that the search project was initially spearheaded by Microsoft Research which seems to be fairly isolated from the the commercial side of the company.

But it seems to have been folded into msn already -- even before its release. Can the barely profitable msn afford to take on an expensive project like search without trying to turn it too quickly into a profit center?

I fear that they'll try to squeeze money out of the project before they've created a viable alternative to Google searches.

So far, it looks like Microsoft is doing little more than embracing and slightly extending the current and accepted way of doing searches. I don't think that's going to make them anything more than another minor player in the game.

I doubt it will be Microsoft that knocks Google off its pedestal. I suspect that will only happen when a couple of guys (or grls) in a dorm room somewhere rethink the whole notion of web searching.
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Is there money to be made? Did Billy start his empire on pirate software? Will the sun rise tomorrow? Microsoft will join the search engine money machine.
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ok bill gates is not thus smartest man(I.Q.) in the world but he knows business tactics and when have we ever seen Mr. Bill go into something (other that windows) full force. Everyone laughed at Microsoft competing with a game system, well last I heard it was quite a profitable endeavor. The question will not be can they compete or will they, more will they compete fair Microsoft is not the kind of company that waits around to gradually build users they attack the market and once and a while bend the rules. Believe you me that antitrust suite was not lost by bills legal firm without a top corporate fight. Most may find that it interlaced into windows will just be too simple like IE was to Netscape.


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http://search.msn.com/
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Perhaps.

But IE never managed to gain dominant market share until Microsoft managed to build a far better browser than what Netscape was offering. Microsoft execs didn't trust their own developers and therefore brought on the antitrust case. But the success of IE 4 v NS 4 had far more to do with developers who delivered a signficantly better product.

The question is whether it will happen again. Will Microsoft deliver a better search tool? Only if they manage to do that will they win in this market.
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