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Old 07-04-2004, 11:11 AM
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Default Why use Link Partner Reciprocal Link company?

I am posting this both in this link exchange forum and in the Google forum.

I have been a member of Link Partners a Reciprocal Links generator company for a little over a month. I have also collected a few reciprocal links through Web Pro News contacts. I just ran several reciprocal link checks through alta vista and google using the search "@papersnowflakes.com"

What found were many sites linking to mine, most of which I contacted on my own via direct email but not one site was listed that I found through Link Partners or Web Pro News contacts.

This tells me that search engines are ignoring these types of venues. I am now wondering if it is worth $19.95 a month to continue with Link Partners.

Can anyone offer an explanation why search engines are ignoring these reciprocals?
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" for a little over a month."

you need to wait longer for backlinks to show up
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:43 PM
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A lot of posts both from and to me in Web Pro News forums show up as links in the searches. Why them and not reciprocal links? It's been the same length of time for both types of entries.
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:45 PM
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if the sites have higher pr they will appear first
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Dear snowflakegirl,

The engines crawl forums like this probably more than they crawl any other venue, because the forums are considered to be "chock" full of new content. Many users know this and post religiously in the forums to get additional links into thier sites. New web sites can use the same trick, post thier sites link here, or in a forum like it, knowing that the engines will find that link quickly, and follow it back to thier site, which gets it indexed in the shortest possible time.
You yourself could be using your posts here to not only create links to your web, but also boost your keywords on the engines by using your keywords in your signature, this practice is known as "anchor text", and is much more effective than a normal hyperlink. Read jesups post in this forum about the benefits of forum signatures, (I want to be sure he gets the credit, since it is his post). Look at my sig, It points to my web site, but the title is loaded with my keywords. Cool, eh?
As far as your links go, google crawls the web to update links once every 4-6 weeks, usually around the first of the month, but not always. I would advise a wait and see before you make any decision since its only been a month.
Good luck, and may all of your flakes, be snowflakes.
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As far as your links go, google crawls the web to update links once every 4-6 weeks
It stopped doing that about a year ago. It crawls continuously and updates internally on a continuous basis now. Every 4-6 weeks it updates the publically available PR (its updated internaly on a different schedule) and changes the composition of the links in the backlinks sample (it does not really update them, as they go down sometimes).

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According to the latest Google conference they are phasing out the importance they put on forum signatures.
There's a strong possibility they might even ignore them altogether soon.
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I've been discussing this in depth in many forums around the world....

It is absolutely too easy for Google to disregard links beneath ______________

I believe that signatures will be worthless very soon....

Basically the entire program would be something like this.....

<NONE PROGRAMMER IDEA OF SCRIPT>
if page is php? or asp? driven...
Disregard: links underneath ___________
</NONE PROGRAMMER IDEA OF SCRIPT>

If I were Google - I would have been doing this already...
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Old 07-05-2004, 01:45 PM
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I would never use link partners or any other link program....

My reason are as follows:

These types of programs DO WORK.... as of now....

But they are something that goes against Google guidelines for building links....

I'm sure that these types of programs will be filtered out very soon....

They say don't cloak - and we all see wwhat happens...

They say don't use hidden text or other trick...
and we see what happens....

They say don't use false linking programs.... Are you going to wait to see what happens?
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Old 07-05-2004, 05:15 PM
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It is absolutely too easy for Google to disregard links beneath ______________
That would also be too easy for people to get around. It would take 5 minutes to mod your forum to randomize the bar over the signature. Individual posters could also fool your algorithm by adding an extra line to their signature.

Google is simply not going to utilize an algorithm that is that easy to fool.

However, I believe that the PageRank/NumberOfInboundLinks ratio for several of my sites strongly suggests that Google is already limiting the number of links which count from one domain to another. This is not represented in the number of links which are displayed in Google's link: command.

It appears that two links from one domain are not twice as good as one link from that domain, and that 50 links are definitely not 50 times better than 1 link.
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Old 07-05-2004, 08:33 PM
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Seems that board owners are not modifying the sigs....

For whatever reason.... I guess they don't want the PR leaking out anyway....

Seo only account for less then 1 percent of all theme message boards..... Most board owners and users have no idea why they would benifit from even having a sig, let alone even know how to create one....

Google implementing such a filter would be a success to 99% of it's target.
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Old 07-06-2004, 06:52 PM
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If reciprocal links with relevant sites is part of your optimization strategy than get linksmanager and exchange links with linkpartners sites.

If you prefer to build natural links through e-mail requests for non reciprocal pages (non directory links) then you don't need linksmanager/linkpartners (they are the same company).

Links from non directory pages are always best, but reciprocal link directory links can help your search position if you have volume (100's or 1000's of individual links).

I prefer one way non reciprocal links, but those are the hardest to find!
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