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Old 12-30-2008, 07:14 PM
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Default Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

Anyone make the switch?

Did switching from Adsense to Bidvertizer work for you?
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

No, It does not have the specific content that AdSense has . .

I expect it would do better if you simply had a site with no topic. . just visitors with no real target. But If you have targeted traffic. Nothing can get close to AdSense.

I do try most pay per click sites. I have hundreds of pages, I simply ad the code to a few pages and see what happens. The first time I tried bidvertiser it showed mainly bidvertiser ads aimed at webmasters. . (I get no webmaster traffic) I tried probably a year later and the adverts were not relevant to my content, and were the same adverts you would find on 90% of non specifically targeted site - Gambling ads, Dating sites, Free stuff.

Far Far better to optimise your page for targeted Google adverts.

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I just saw an advert for bidvertiser here on WPW. Well. . . So bidvertiser may well be upgrading their displayed ad content. .
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No, It does not have the specific content that AdSense has . .

I expect it would do better if you simply had a site with no topic. . just visitors with no real target. But If you have targeted traffic. Nothing can get close to AdSense.

I do try most pay per click sites. I have hundreds of pages, I simply ad the code to a few pages and see what happens. The first time I tried bidvertiser it showed mainly bidvertiser ads aimed at webmasters. . (I get no webmaster traffic) I tried probably a year later and the adverts were not relevant to my content, and were the same adverts you would find on 90% of non specifically targeted site - Gambling ads, Dating sites, Free stuff.

Far Far better to optimise your page for targeted Google adverts.

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I just saw an advert for bidvertiser here on WPW. Well. . . So bidvertiser may well be upgrading their displayed ad content. .
Yes, thanks, Tubby. I saw the advert here, so that's what set me thinking about it.

I'll do as you suggested and try it on one site that is not specifically targeted at anything.
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I have tried Bidvertizer on one of my sites Thats News just to see how it goes.

Tubby, I think I see what you mean about the adverts that show up, but it is early days yet. It has only been up for several hours and time will tell.

If it doesn't work, I can always put the Google adverts back on their.

A pity though, as that site was my main earner.

I have also decided to remove some Amazon links to enable the Adsense code to appear higher up on the right-hand side of the site, so they are closer to the items people are reading.
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Default Re: Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

Bidvertiser is definitely an option if one's adsense has been shut down. Personally, I wouldn't leave adsense for bidvertiser, but for webmasters scrambling for an alternative, options are limited.

It has its pro's and con's. The pros fall more on the publisher's side. The con's fall more on the advertiser's side.

The concern for advertisers is that ppc programs that aren't offered by a search engine company will only show up on advertiser's webpages (as opposed to being on search results, etc.), hence the perceived increased chance for click fraud. But that's an issue for a discussion of using bidvertiser to advertise, not to earn.

Bottom line, it's a huge network. Not as beneficial as adsense, but worthy of consideration if adsense isn't in the equation.
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Default Re: Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

It must be difficult for a site like bidvertiser to build non Webmaster type ad content. They can spent time effort and cash advertising their program and they would naturally target webmasters.

I think there would probably be a natural tendency for more specialised adverts to be the last thing to evolve.

specialised adverts are what webmasters want! - It has to be a difficult market to break into and it seems
Bidvertiser is growing and offering more variety every time I take a peek. . Good on them.


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I just checked out Thats News
the ads showing are below - (I guess there had to be one casino advert)

Ladydoc gets Death Threat
Exposes Top Secret Fat Loss Secret. No Need for Dieting Using This!
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Free Slot Machine Spins
Get £500 Free and 1 hour to make as much money as you can.
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I expect a webmaster could probably optimise web pages and layout for advertisers - Then place AdSense and Bidvertiser. (variety)
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Default Re: Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

One of the problems with pay per click, Is it does not cost anyone very much to place an advert that nobody will click on. The webmaster displaying the ad desperately wants an advert that every second user wants to click on.

I think there should be some sort of webmaster compensation for advertisers that present adverts that only expect a 1in a thousand view response.

In theory, one could create brand name awarenes - and produce an ad that would deter clicks.
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Default Re: Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

It has earned me 74c so far.

I'll have to see how it goes.

Thanks for your help on this one.
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It has earned me 74c so far.
Is that since yesterday?

Now that I recall, the last time we advertised with bidvertiser there seemed to be a lot of (advertiser) control over what types of sites advertisers can get their ads on. I honestly can't remember how much it differed from Adsense, but it just seemed to me at the time it was less about content and more about where advertisers wanted to advertise. (Though it did involve keywords, content, etc). That's my best recollection, I'll have to look at it more closely again. But as for the other ads showing up on that other page mentioned about, I guess it does seem that gambling sites want to advertise (and spam) just about everywhere these days.
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Default Re: Would Bidvertizer make a good Adsense replacement?

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'I guess it does seem that gambling sites want to advertise (and spam) just about everywhere these days"

This highlights part of the point I tried to make earlier on.
Neither you nor I nor most visitors will click on a gambling site, the Gamblers already have their own favourite site. .
So nobody clicks . . . This means that these adverts are a waste of webmaster space . . they are virtually 'fillers'

Webmasters should at least get a minimum pay per view. . . If Bidvertiser can review your site. . Then I think they could offer a minimum pay per view as a backstop.

I think If pay per click sites think your site is not worthy to offer a minimum ppv amount as a safety net for ppc ads, then they should not offer you adverts to display.
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Yes, since yesterday.
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It's worth a punt, as Google has gone really weird. At least, as far as my sites are concerned...
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Yes, since yesterday.
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It's worth a punt, as Google has gone really weird. At least, as far as my sites are concerned...
Well hey it's halfway to being what many adsense sites have made this last quarter. Perhaps some renewed optimism is in order.
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Yes. . the proof is always in the pudding. I have no Idea of your previous results if "It has earned me 74c so far" . is good or bad.

If its good. then the pudding looks tastier than the google pie...
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I don't rate Bidvertiser unless you have not alternatives. if you are in the US then you have Yahoo of course but I am in the UK so am stuck with Adsense.

Happy New year to all btw

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I don't rate Bidvertiser unless you have not alternatives. if you are in the US then you have Yahoo of course but I am in the UK so am stuck with Adsense.

Happy New year to all btw

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Well, yes. I feel I am stuck, too. I am using Bidevertizer as a test. I am in the UK, too.
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Adsense is the best. But if in case that google ban my account, I would go for bidvertiser.
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