I cracked AdSense and get money without clicks!

freetraff · #1 (**permalink**) 11-18-2007, 04:28 PM

I know this sounds like a nasty promo for a salescopy, but this is true.

I checked my AdSense stats for yesterday and saw the profit without any clicks (no clicks on Ads for Content and no profits for Ads for Search).

For those who want to add that AdSense do not represent the true picture during the day I want to say that I know it. But I checked the stats for yesterday.

So, I am the first to crack AdSense and making money without getting clicks!

P.S. Ok, enough kidding. One question - HOW? How is it possible to happen?

**mjtaylor** · #2 (**permalink**) 11-18-2007, 05:42 PM

Moved your thread to Adsense forum ...

cimmeronstudios · #3 (**permalink**) 11-18-2007, 08:38 PM

seriously? I can't really see this happening....details?

freetraff · #4 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007, 05:17 AM

mjtaylor, thanks for moving the post to more relevant place (it's my bad that after so much time on this forum I still cannot find the proper forum category)

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Originally Posted by cimmeronstudios

seriously? I can't really see this happening....details?

As you know I cannot share all details about my account according to Google regulations. But the situation is the following - imagine that for one of the previous days you see:
a certain number of impressions - 0 clicks - $0.01 in profits

This is what happened few days ago - real case story. As according to Google I had no clicks but made profits I made a conclusion that I made the money from the air. Do you have any other explanation?

innominds · #5 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007, 08:50 AM

It may be some mistake. Is it being repeated? If so then we can draw some conclusion.

freetraff · #6 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by innominds

It may be some mistake. Is it being repeated? If so then we can draw some conclusion.

Since that time, for a few days this have not been happening.

P.S. I also understand this is a mistake. But this mistake is like a worm inside my mind "Ok, it was a mistake once. Will that happen in future? How come the big G makes this type of mistakes? This mistake is impossible, because stats can get updated only if the sale (of the click) is done and if stats get updated for other reason, then maybe not the sales matter?" - and a whole bunch of other questions that have no answer, but make me seriously concerned.

If that was happening in real time (stats for today) I would not be surprised, because I know that for today Google is not showing the 100% real stats and this is quite logical. But the stats for the previous day, the so-called official stats is absolutely another story. And the questions go: mistake = bug? if bug = just for me or others? bug in what - real stats are real stats, no way to make mistakes with the data?

Really, I don't know what to say. I am perplexed. When my business partner saw the stats (we have account for a company) he was shocked.

Tubby · #7 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:24 AM

this happens, I have not taken the time to investigate it but is quite normal on my stats.

freetraff · #8 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubby

this happens, I have not taken the time to investigate it but is quite normal on my stats.

Hi Tubby, great that you joined the discussion - I trust your experience a lot.

Do you have any ideas to explain this behavior?

I really can't get how this can be possible. If there is a click - there is some profit, no clicks - no profits: this is logical. But if I see profits without clicks, then I can also see in the future clicks without profits. Wow!

In my vision the calculations for Google must be pretty simple: click was done, Google knows how much advertiser has paid for this very click, Google takes its share, I get my share. Simple and down to earth. No place for *manouvers*. And in this framework I do not see any possibility to clicks without profits and profits without clicks.

The only logical explanation that I have is that my suggestion line: "click - money - profits to Google + profits to me" there is something else, another part of the puzzle. But then it is absolutely not like I imagined AdSense to work. And I feel that most of the people would think the same.

Tubby · #9 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 06:38 AM

the below is totally created from my imagination.

Pay per view could be blended into pay per click. yes you pay per click but maybe there will be an option for lesser clicked ads (some ads never get clicked on) to maintain a display position with a pay per view suppliment.

There is a benefit from simply placing your name in front of users.

For example I could place an ad on Google with my name on it. yet the text discourages clicks. my name would still be seen - (sort of free billboard ads)

Maybe you could pay your 30 cents per click. then ad on 1 cent per view.

I have no Idea Mate. I shall simply watch the returns until the reason for this oddity becomes evident.

freetraff · #10 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubby

the below is totally created from my imagination.

Pay per view could be blended into pay per click. yes you pay per click but maybe there will be an option for lesser clicked ads (some ads never get clicked on) to maintain a display position with a pay per view suppliment.

There is a benefit from simply placing your name in front of users.

For example I could place an ad on Google with my name on it. yet the text discourages clicks. my name would still be seen - (sort of free billboard ads)

Maybe you could pay your 30 cents per click. then ad on 1 cent per view.

I have no Idea Mate. I shall simply watch the returns until the reason for this oddity becomes evident.

Tubby, my bad - bur I can't get what exactly you mean. If this is ok, can you PM me with more details. Thanks.

Tubby · #11 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 07:23 PM

Nothing to understand realy. Just me having some wild speculationary thoughts, on a pay per view aspect on AdSense.

It is very difficult to pick up these few cents that appear on adsense. While they are easily visible on the absence sections where there are no clicks recorded. they become virtually invisible once some clicks are recorded.

I simply have taken a wild guess and suggest that Google might be paying for simply displaying the ad. ( pay per view / display / whatever).

I really do not want to be the source of some rumour about Google introducing a pay per view aspect on AdSense.

I have simply observed the same peculiarity that you have for some months now. I have no answer to the question It could simply be a rounding aspect for parts cents. It could be any multitude of things.

freetraff · #12 (**permalink**) 11-21-2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubby

Nothing to understand realy. Just me having some wild speculationary thoughts, on a pay per view aspect on AdSense.

It is very difficult to pick up these few cents that appear on adsense. While they are easily visible on the absence sections where there are no clicks recorded. they become virtually invisible once some clicks are recorded.

I simply have taken a wild guess and suggest that Google might be paying for simply displaying the ad. ( pay per view / display / whatever).

I really do not want to be the source of some rumour about Google introducing a pay per view aspect on AdSense.

I have simply observed the same peculiarity that you have for some months now. I have no answer to the question It could simply be a rounding aspect for parts cents. It could be any multitude of things.

Now I got your point. And I understand what you mean by saying it's just a will guess - only Google can say Y/N on the issues of that kind. Thanks for sharing the idea.

A wild guess from me was that AdSense is testing something very new at the moment, and it gives glitches like the ones I saw. But also - nothing but a wild guess.

freetraff · #13 (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 05:42 AM

Interesting Note:

This strange behavior does not happen when you have 1 site in one AdSense channel. But if you have a bulk of sites (let's say 10 or 20) under one channel - then the difference between your unique visitors and impressions can be 3, 5 and sometimes even more times different. Plus - money without clicks.

So, a hypothetical suggestion is that if you have better control over a site via channelling it individually - AdSense works better: the AdSense stats info agrees perfectly well with the stats of traffic on your hosting (the number of unique visitors and the number of impressions in AdSenses are almost equal) and no cases of profits without clicks.

WDC · #14 (**permalink**) 11-30-2007, 11:45 PM

Nothing unusual google pay you for impressions also

I am also gettin revenue frpmpage impressions for a logn time.

freetraff · #15 (**permalink**) 12-05-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WDC

Nothing unusual google pay you for impressions also

I am also gettin revenue frpmpage impressions for a logn time.

Thanks - interesting info. I never heard that Google pays just for impressions. Do you, by any chance, have any URL where they say it on their site?

manung36 · #16 (**permalink**) 12-18-2007, 07:18 AM

how much earning if my traffic 1000 visitor / month without click?

freetraff · #17 (**permalink**) 12-20-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by manung36

how much earning if my traffic 1000 visitor / month without click?

manung36, I don't think that anyone can answer it, because actually I have not found a single mentioning that Google pays just for impressions (just to encourage).

That is why - this is just a hypothetical suggestion shared by some forum members.

P.S. If anybody can give a URL where Google officially admits paying just for impressions in AdSense program to encourage those who have small clicks - I will take my words about "hypothetical suggestion" back.

manung36 · #18 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 12:07 AM

if i have 3 format adsense at my site, impression at google is 3? or only impression?

Martinscholes · #19 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 09:32 AM

Is it possible that the money was an adjustment by Google? Their accounting system might have spotted you had been underpaid by 1c, so added that back for you.

khurramali · #20 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 11:13 AM

anyone heard of CPA, Pay per 1000 impressions. that could be it.

anyway, one occurance is not enough for an experiment, you need to prove without reasonable doubt that you have cracked the code, and I don't see conclusive proof.

WDC · #21 (**permalink**) 01-22-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by freetraff

Thanks - interesting info. I never heard that Google pays just for impressions. Do you, by any chance, have any URL where they say it on their site?

No I haven't seen any URL where they mention about this but I have observed this only that they pay for impressions also.