I have several websites that display Adsense ads. My most profitable is http://www.BestArabicMusic.net

Today I got this message from Google:

While reviewing your account, we noticed that you are currently displaying Google ads in a manner that is not compliant with our policies. For instance, we found violations of AdSense policies on pages such as bestarabicmusic.net.

Publishers may not place Google ads on pages that violate Google’s webmaster quality guidelines (http://www.google.com/support/webma...=35769#quality\). While we've included the following excerpts from these guidelines, we recommend that you take the time to review them in their entirety.

* Make pages for users, not for search engines.
* Don't employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.
* Don't load pages with irrelevant words.
* Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
* Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank.
* Avoid "doorway" pages created just for search engines, or other "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
* Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
* If your site participates in an affiliate program, make sure that your site adds value. Provide unique and relevant content that gives users a reason to visit your site first.

As a result, we have disabled ad serving to the site.


I am confounded. Which of these policies have I violated? I have no redirects, no keyword stuffing, no doorway pages, no affiliate links... I have (for the most part) original articles that I wrote myself. So what are they talking about?

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Adsense is really complex and the rules are endless. So unfortunately, where you don't see or understand why you are violating, under the hundreds of rules that they have you will find a match. It's just a really difficult system to work with. I'm sure you're enjoying the profits tremendously, but sometimes for the headache, it's jut not worth it!

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Ayat, thanks for your comment, but I live in a small town in a remote location. Building websites and earning Adsense revenue is my primary source of income. I have applied to YPN but have not been accepted yet. I am beginning to explore affiliate marketing, but right now I am heavily dependent on Adsense, and I make a decent living from it. So saying, "forget it, not worth the hassle" is not an option for me.

I hear ya wael. I guess the only thing you can possibly do is stick to their regulations and see what exactly it is that went wrong with that specific site. Sorry, I wish I could be of more assistance; but my experience with adsense has been awful.

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wael,
I can tell you which one you violated.....
YOu are not supposed to have more than 3 instances of google adds on a page at a time, you have 4

hope this helps

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And therein lies your problem. It is painfully obvious that this site was built only to facilitate pay-per-click ads. Google looks unfavorably at these types of web sites.

I think correcting your Adsense problem should be easy.
You can only have 3 ads per page, and you have 4.
Simply remove one of them.

Write to Google and explain you misunderstood the rules and drop one of the ad boxes. They have always sent me a warning before deleting me, so good for me on that one. But I have found that if you communicate with them it could resolve your problem. It's sure worth a try.

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Perhaps I'm confused but if Google says
"As a result, we have disabled ad serving to the site", why is it still serving ads?

DaK

It's only 3 ad units plus a link unit which should be fine.

I'd say the site simply breaks the following rule:
If you want to continue using AdSense build the site up to a really useful resource rather than just another made for ad site.

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I never knew that.
Does anyone have the Google Adsense URL page pointing out where it states this 3 ad rule?

Rick

That was my first thought.

And my second thought was: How can there be 4 adsense blocks working? I may be misremembering, but I thought I had once inadvertently posted too many ad blocks and the surplus simply didn't show up.

In any event, try removing the extra ads and contact Google.

Good luck.

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http://www.google.com/adsense/policies at the bottom of the page under Ad placement.
Ad units and link units ARE different!

My understanding is you can have 3 of each, which IMO is over the top.

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Dear Wael,
I just went to your site, Best Arabic Music - Best Arabic Music Home Page and all the adsense are displaying. Is it possible the letter went out in error?
Just a thought...
Sharon

oops.. next time I'll read ALL replies first

"Google AdSense program policies allow you to place up to three ad units and three link units on any page."

Quote from the AdSense setup page. It's there and the page does not violate it because it's 3 ad units and a text link unit.


DaK

I would definatley find other sources for your income other that Google ads. One day the higher-ups may see what those below them are doing to their advertisers but it may be too late by then. In what other business can you frustrate your advertisers and stay in business?

They should have spelled out what was wrong for you instead of making you guess. When it comes to advertising on Google, the are consistantly inconsistant. I would love to talk to someone there instead of a "copy and paste" monkey.

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wael,

My guess it is because you are using the Google Searchbox with Adsense on your 404-page.
I used to put Adsense on this page and I too was notified by Google violating their Adsense policies. Not knowing what else I did wrong it only could have been that. So I removed the ads. That was months ago and I never heard of them again. So I suppose that will be the thing at your site.

When in doubt ask Google if that is the case.

Good luck with your site.

Danny

While others are going back and forth on number of ads that usually won't get you dropped from the program. They will write and specify the site in error and the problem.

From the looks of the letter it's less about violating policies and more about Webmaster guidelines.

A quich check of the back page source code reveals this attempt at rankings????


<title>Best Arabic Music - Best Arabic Music Home Page</title>
<meta NAME="Keywords" Content="arabia music, arab music, www arabic music com, arabic music com, arabic music, music in arabic, music arabic songs, arabic music sites, modern arabic music, music arabe, new arabic music, www arab music com, 6arab music, arabic music hits, arabic music online, arabic music songs, arabic songs, latest arabic songs, musique arabe, www 6arab music com, 6 arab music, 6 arab songs, 6 arabic music, 6arab arabic music, 6arab arabic songs, 6arab songs">
<meta NAME="Description" Content="Information about the history Arabic music, Arabic music instruments, legendary Arabic musicians, and trends in modern Arabic music">

Might have keyword stuffed the meta tags a weeeee bit too much for Googles liking.

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Possibly:
1. Invalid clicks. Do you have competitors that want to put you out of business? Check your logs.
2. You have some .com names listed in your keywords. This could also be construed as "tricking the search engines." Why put other domain names in your keywords? And if these aren't your domains but domain names that belong to competitors, doing invalid clicks may be their revenge on you.
3. Your navigation links are at the footer: highly inconvenient for readers to find. Maybe they'll click an Adsense ad first? Google Adsense may not like this. You're supposed to build a site for readers, not for Adsense.

Please heed the advice above to not depend on one income source. No business can be built on this and you see the result of it. And finally: "Live by Google, die by Google."

It seems to me, trying to contact Google would be the best. They make revenue as well so they have incentive to help you figure it out.

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Google doesn't give a monkeys about meta tags as far as I know - I doubt they even read them anymore. Like everyone else, I get ads served to me on your pages.

The "too many ad units" idea holds water, but Adsense automatically only displays the maximum number you're allowed. That's why you can have an adsense unit per blog post, but if one page displays too many posts they just don't display the extra units all dynamic like.

I think more likely Google had a look at the site and was bored sh**less like I was. Sorry, but it just isn't "content" and the way the page is designed screams MFA.

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Wael, ultimately you should read and understand the rules yourself instead of counting on us. This is your money...

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That's what I found and it's changed too. It's 3 ad units and 2 link unites. The link units just changed I believe...

correct me if im wrong

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A thought, maybe he put this post in so we will all click on his ads?

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I have nothing to contribute to this thread that has not already been said. I just want to say that I learned a lot from it, and also to say there is no other forum I visit where people are so willing to take the time to help each other out--often by visiting and analyzing a web site to identify a problem. This forum is a comforting counterweight to the considerable load of cynicism I carry from a long life of being cheated, lied to, and otherwise mistreated more often than not.

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This one's too hard to work out yourself. It's not the number of ad units or link units causing a problem. It "might" be the placement of the top two ad blocks, which makes the pages look a bit like MFA (made for Adsense) pages.

If in doubt - ask Google. Send a polite, short reply stating that you are not quite sure of exactly how you have violated their terms, and seek clarification on the issue. Include the original email, and your publisher id.

They have been good with me in the past when I have had similar issues.

Hope that helps.

I had the same email recently.

Write back politely and tell them you disagree with their action and ask that they tell you exactly what you have done wrong.

I received an apology about a week later after doing this. It seems they made a mistake.

However, you might want to read through the content of your website to see if there is anything offensive there. No matter what it is, if you think it MIGHT offend, take it out.

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Just as a side note...I really dislike sites like this.
I am looking on line for some genuine information and I stumble into this link farm.
It is the worst of the internet and as you have said the only reason you posted it is for ad click revenue. This down grades the internet and makes it annoying from time to time.
Maybe that's what Google was refering to.
As a web user as well as a web developer I am looking for sites to inform, so what ever search engine provides me with more of these useless sites, is the one I avoid. Google is pushing for better and relevancy and perhaps they decided your revenue source was not relevant enough.

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I certainly wish I would have gotten an apology a year ago when I was victimized by their random rules.

If I had to guess it's just that they don't like the quality of your traffic. Because if you read their TOS what it really says is that they can do whatever they want, whenever they want to, for any reason.

I did NOT receive a letter of apology, nor did I receive the thousand dollars they still owe me.

If you're a big corporation and have slept with the right people, you can bend those rules anyway you want to. Do some random Google searches and you'll quickly find that to be true.

If you're not a big company though, they might simply decide that they don't want to pay you anymore and then use the TOS from hell that makes them omnipotent to tell you that you don't have any recourse.

Do no evil. yeah right.

I just went to your site and there are currently no Adsense ads.

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I know why your getting booted from adsense, surprised nobody else picked up on this.

I snagged a few chunks of sentences from your website and put them into google search using quote marks, and guess what,

Your content is directly ripped out of Wikipedia. You copied and pasted some text out of wikipedia and then surrounded it with adsense.

They clearly state in their rules that they want sites with 'original' content.

Thanks for all your suggestions and I will be implementing some of them. I have also written to Google asking them to elaborate.

Matteo, I do believe the site informs. Some of the articles (like the one on Arabic wedding music) took me a few days to write because I found scant information on the web, and I had to pull together material from many different sources and re-work it to come up with a single cohesive article. In my opinion, that's a worthwhile service.

twist, I did not rip off content from Wikipedia. For a few of the articles I used material from Wikipedia and summarized it in my own language, which again I think is useful because some Wikipedia articles are way too didactic, delving into obscure details that don't interest the average reader.

Again, thank you very much for your suggestions. I'll eliminate some keywords, correct the 404 page, liven up the pages with some images, perhaps improve the site design, and lengthen some of the shorter articles.

Who are you Matteo to poo-poo another persons website ??

The info on the site may not interest you but
other people may find it very interesting and informative.
You may be a web designer and SEO expert, but you are not God!

Keep your negative mumblings to yourself.

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"The Arab musical tradition as it is known today developed between the AD 7th and 13th Centuries in the courts of Islam. The first great renaissance of Arab music occurred in Syria and the surrounding regions during the Umayyad Dynasty (AD 7th-8th Century). At that time Baghdad, in what is now Iraq, was a central city for musicians and performers, partly due to its ruler, the legendary Haroun al-Raschid."

Your webpage, Best Arabic Music - History of Arabic Music

"The Arab musical tradition as it is known today developed between the AD 7th and 13th Centuries in the courts of Islam. The first great renaissance of Arab music occurred in Syria and the surrounding regions during the Umayyad Dynasty (AD 7th-8th Century). At that time Baghdad, in what is now Iraq, was a central city for musicians and performers, partly due to its ruler, the legendary Haroun al-Raschid."

The above continues on for 2 more paragraphs.

Music in Egypt - Seven Millennia of Performance

"In 1909, Britain's Gramophone Company created its first record label, "His Master's Voice," whose famous dog-and-gramophone logo still exists as part of RCA. "His Master's Voice" began a massive campaign a few years later to record traditional Arabic music as well as the newer forms that were created. In 1914, Decca introduced the famous mass-produced "case" gramophone. Although the gramophone was still expensive, and only the richest individuals purchased them, many public businesses would buy them to play for their customers. It became quite common a decade or so later in Egypt for people to travel to the local coffeehouse to socialize and listen to the latest performances by famous Egyptian singers such as Umm Kulthum and Mohamed Abdel Wahab."

Your website Best Arabic Music - History of Arabic Music

"In 1909, Britain's Gramophone Company created its first record label, "His Master's Voice," whose famous dog-and-gramophone logo still exists as part of RCA. "His Master's Voice" began a massive campaign a few years later to record traditional Arabic music as well as the newer forms that were created. In 1914, Decca introduced the famous mass-produced "case" gramophone. Although the gramophone was still expensive, and only the richest individuals purchased them, many public businesses would buy them to play for their customers. It became quite common a decade or so later in Egypt for people to travel to the local coffeehouse to socialize and listen to the latest performances by famous Egyptian singers such as Umm Kulthum and Mohamed Abdel Wahab."

Then we have this website, Arab music: instruments ( which, according to Alexa has been online Since: 08-May-1998 ) which looks very similar to this page Best Arabic Music - The Instruments of Arabic Music

Music in Ancient Egypt

"Professional musicians existed on a number of social levels in ancient Egypt. Perhaps the highest status belonged to temple musicians; the office of "musician" (shemayet) to a particular god or goddess was a position of high status frequently held by women. Musicians connected with the royal household were held in high esteem, as were certain gifted singers and harp players. Somewhat lower on the social scale were musicians who acted as entertainers for parties and festivals, frequently accompanied by dancers. Informal singing is suggested by scenes of workers in action; captions to many of these pictures have been interpreted as words of songs. Otherwise there is little evidence for the amateur musician in pharaonic Egypt, and it is unlikely that musical achievement was seen as a desirable goal for individuals who were not professionals."

Your website, Best Arabic Music - Ancient Egyptian Music and Ancient Arabian Music

"Professional musicians existed on a number of social levels in ancient Egypt. Perhaps the highest status belonged to temple musicians; the office of "musician" (shemayet) to a particular god or goddess was a position of high status frequently held by women. Musicians connected with the royal household were held in high esteem, as were certain gifted singers and harp players. Somewhat lower on the social scale were musicians who acted as entertainers for parties and festivals, frequently accompanied by dancers. Informal singing is suggested by scenes of workers in action; captions to many of these pictures have been interpreted as words of songs. Otherwise there is little evidence for the amateur musician in pharaonic Egypt, and it is unlikely that musical achievement was seen as a desirable goal for individuals who were not professionals."

This continues on for another paragraph.

Wael

As I mentioned earlier I believe the keyword spamming is in fact why the Adsense account was sent a letter.

I did some more research and happen to have the perfect site to prove that having too many Ads is not an issue that would result in a ban.

My blog Media Viper has all of my posts on the front page when a visitor drops by. Now I typically insert a large square Adsense Ad at the end of each post.

If you scroll the page currently there are 12 blog posts. Each of those posts has an adsense deluxe WP plugin call in each of the 12, yet only the 3 newest blog posts will display Adsense Ads.

What this indicates is that Google does realize blogs, & websites may be developed differently, and so the Google Ad Server takes this into account, and limits the Ads displayed to match the Google TOS.

This is also done to increase the sites revenue share as well.

Redo your meta tags and see if you cannot get back in.

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There are no ads,. so I doubt that that´s the case..


Wael,

There are some basic things missing in your site. These questions I would ask if I was Google, to decide the purpose of a site:

* Can I find in the site who made it?
* Is there a standard menu?
* Is there some kind of interactivity possible?
* Can I see content before I scroll down?
* Is the content dated?

Obviously in your site, the answer to each of these questions is "No".

I don't think your intentions are wrong, but the implementation is very wrong. If I were you I would delete everything you have and install a wordpress blog. Then don't over do it on the adsense blocks. Don't put them there where people expect the content to start. That´s just such an obvious MFA (Made For Adsense) indicator that Google simply has no choice but to make the decision they made.

A list of ads in the sides will work just fine and probably increase the value of your clicks as well.

The advantage of wordpress is that your visitors can leave comments. You are now forced to regularly write a new post, etc.

Once you did this, ask Google to allow your site again. Explain you had all the good intentions, but that you didn't realize that the site you built before was not within the guidelines. Google has no problems with sites that are built to make money, even if it is just with adsense and as long as you built a site that is useful to a visitor, they will be more than happy to add adsense. But if the only thing to do on your site is to click on adsense, then the value of those clicks is too low for their advertisers.

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Oops. They are gone now, aren't they. Must be Google's doing 'cause they are still show up in the page source.

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Some of the article I wrote myself, and some I contracted out. I did not realize that portions had been copied. I will get to work researching and writing new articles

Peter, thanks for your advice. I didn't think placement of the Ad blocks was a problem for Google, as long as it was not deceptive in some way.

I'll consider using Wordpress.

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I guess all of us clicking on his links got him banned!
ROFL!
One less spam site to deal with in the serps.
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Adsense policy says you can't display adsense in music sites where user can download free music or mp3. If you site have music Google wont display adsense add to your site.

Peter,
There WERE ads when this thread started.
All displaying nice and proper.
Until we all clicked on them...
Now he is banned.
or ?
One less spam page in the serps?

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Gosh. It seems there were several problems, there...

In passing, I have to say I have always found Google and Adsense staff to be very helpful.

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Why don't you just try contacting google for the exact policy you violated reason, instead of trying to venture a guess?

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