The $30,000 a month adsense project - Page 3

wizardofx · #**101** (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 06:48 PM

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And also, those $200,000 is, as you said, gross income. What's the profit margin on that? If you put adsense on your site and gain an additional $13.000 it is almost 100% profit margin, so that little money of Adsense can actually have a big impact on your net income.
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It occurs to me that you thought I meant thirteen thousand dollars, but I am using the USA version of the full stop, it was thirteen dollars. If it was thirteen thousand dollars I would be all over it.

But realistically the numbers go something like this:

170,000 x 0.001 click throughs = 170 click throughs,
worth $0.09 each = $15.30

Peter (IMC) · #**102** (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 10:49 PM

I agree that Adsense is not right for all sites. It completely depends on the objective of the site/pages.

The choice is mostly obvious I think. But a little bit of experimenting isn't a bad thing. Especially in ecommerce sites where the objective is to make money, it can be lucrative to use Adsense. Even if it means your conversion rates go down a bit. If the decrease in sales is compensate by more than 100% through Adwords, you still end up with more net income.

Not saying it is a bad move to not try it out. Image is often a very important factor and Adsense doesn't always fit in with that image.

Peter (IMC) · #**103** (**permalink**) 05-10-2007, 11:02 PM

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And also, those $200,000 is, as you said, gross income. What's the profit margin on that? If you put adsense on your site and gain an additional $13.000 it is almost 100% profit margin, so that little money of Adsense can actually have a big impact on your net income.
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It occurs to me that you thought I meant thirteen thousand dollars, but I am using the USA version of the full stop, it was thirteen dollars. If it was thirteen thousand dollars I would be all over it.

But realistically the numbers go something like this:

170,000 x 0.001 click throughs = 170 click throughs,
worth $0.09 each = $15.30

confusion all over!,. :)

But I understand what you mean. Though I am more used to CTR's of 10% or higher. But those are not in ecomerce sites. That´s in informative content sites with content that is related to services or products that people actually want to buy. They just want to find information first.

As I understand it, Collusion is aiming to build these types of websites.

MFA (Made For Adsense) sites are generally very recognizable as they have a very high IYF (In Your Face) rate. That means you need to scroll down far before you actually reach any content that´s not Adsense and often that content is pretty much useless.

As far as I understand it, (and I hope it is correct), Collusion is aiming to build real content sites with a low IYF rate.

littlegiant · #**104** (**permalink**) 05-13-2007, 12:09 PM

Collusion,

Is your MySpace Image Hosting site.. like uhhhh... finished?

With all due respect, it looks really generic and unattractive. I can't imagine you coming anywhere near to taking on the likes of Photobucket or ImageShack with a production like this.

jtracking · #**105** (**permalink**) 05-15-2007, 10:47 AM

See the free idea is great! I just finished a small project where i put of a forum using phpbb as the forum and created a template around it. It's for club penguin members http://www.clubpenguin.morestar.ca

I plan on earning from the adsense ads but also offering a place where CP members can post and chat regarding their membership etc. With me luck!

collusion · #**106** (**permalink**) 05-15-2007, 05:40 PM

The go9500i Project is now donating 15% of all profits to The American Red Cross of Greater Chicago.

We setup the deal today and our logo will soon be displayed on their website at www.chicagoredcross.org

incrediblehelp · #**107** (**permalink**) 05-15-2007, 06:21 PM

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The go9500i Project is now donating 15% of all profits to The American Red Cross of Greater Chicago.

We setup the deal today and our logo will soon be displayed on their website at www.chicagoredcross.org

I respect the generous donation on your part to ARC. I wonder do they fully understand what AdSense is and what type of content websites you plan on building? Will you be offering the ARC logo on your websites?

collusion · #**108** (**permalink**) 05-15-2007, 06:23 PM

We are posting their logo on The go950i Project website shortly. Whether we will be posting them on our websites is to be determined.

They know we are building quality websites and they know what adsense is.

Clicken · #**109** (**permalink**) 05-15-2007, 11:45 PM

It is my opinion that the giving of profits to charity is a private matter and unless the customer has a choice of how much and where it goes then it isn’t their business.

To me, it just looks like the company is boasting, looking for a public relation opportunity or pushing the sympathy buttons out of desperation… Charities are good and giving to charities is good, IMO, however there is a tactful way to approach it.

That aside,…

I am curious about how the project generates it’s revenue.

Do sites pay an initial sign up/member fee to join this ‘network”? or,… Is it worked out that the project receives a percent of each participating site’s adsense revenue? or,… Does the project get it’s revenue from the adsense referral program for setting up the new accounts?

If I understand correctly, the project is working as a marketing service for adbanners of it’s network members instead of directly marketing a member’s business product.

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”I plan on earning from the adsense ads but also offering a place where CP members can post and chat regarding their membership etc. With me luck!

Adsense makes BIGsense when a site is popular. Popular means that visitors find a specific use for the site, they bookmark it because they will need it again and they share it with friends.

It seems that the adsense revenue will reflect the popularity of a site so if jtracking can create a useful site then although the program makes little $ense at first, it would most likely increase as the site popularity increases.

Point me to where I can get detailed information on how this project works. I have read this thread and visited the blog but haven't found detailed information.

collusion · #**110** (**permalink**) 05-16-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Clicken

To me, it just looks like the company is boasting, looking for a public relation opportunity or pushing the sympathy buttons out of desperation… Charities are good and giving to charities is good, IMO, however there is a tactful way to approach it.

My opinion is that the above statement was extremely selfish. People who need that money are in a desperate situation. I have personally been in the situation that I am trying to help people from and tact has no place in it. For someone to say something like that goes to show just how many people need to end up losing everything before they realize what's really going on in life.

As far as the other comments go we will post something within the next few days that should clearify.

Clicken · #**111** (**permalink**) 05-16-2007, 09:58 AM

It is very presumptuous of you to assume the situations that I have experienced or the knowledge I have of what is really going on.

My statement, as selfish as it may sound to you, comes from the experience of wanting to publish my charitable donations to visitors and way more than 15%.

However, after careful thought as to the TRUE motives for wanting to publish my donations to the public it was clear that it came from selfish desires… wanting to use the goodness associated with a charity to help my own image, to pull on the hearts in hopes of clinching a wavering sale.

Ask yourself, why you feel it is necessary to publish what you give? What is the purpose of proclaiming the gift?

The point I am trying to make is that the approach you have chosen leaves a question of motive with SOME visitors.

If you wish to make charity donations a part of your business campaign then it should be done so that it doesn’t appear that you are using it to boost your own sales.

One way to do that is to let the customers have a choice in either how much they want to give or at least choose the organization in which the proceeds go.

If it is your donation it is your business. If it is their donation which you are collecting then it becomes the business of both.

At the very least, an emblem placed on the site would let people know which charities you support and even a statement asking for help is fine but if someone gives and the amount anyone gives is a private matter.

activeco · #**112** (**permalink**) 05-16-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Clicken

However, after careful thought as to the TRUE motives for wanting to publish my donations to the public it was clear that it came from selfish desires… wanting to use the goodness associated with a charity to help my own image, to pull on the hearts in hopes of clinching a wavering sale.

Thumbs up to you Clicken!

Clicken · #**113** (**permalink**) 05-16-2007, 03:16 PM

Thanks activeco, support is always good and it was with good intent that I brought attention to the subject.

I can relate to needing help from others, there aren’t many with-in the general population who do not encounter a lift from others at one point or another. It is perfectly human to want to give back in an enthusiastic way too.

It is in the enthusiasm that we can lose sight of what’s really going on… so I really hope collusion can appreciate the reality of a different perspective.

collusion · #**114** (**permalink**) 05-16-2007, 03:21 PM

I appreciate you taking part clicken. I also appreciate your perspective. I was just offended by what you said. I draw attention to these kinds of issues.

Of course I would benefit from any press but that is cause and effect. It doesnt change the fact that I personally was homeless and want to help people in the situation. I don't care how rich I was. I would still help.

Clicken · #**115** (**permalink**) 05-16-2007, 05:04 PM

Of course you were offended, and unless you want to be continually offended by comments like mine then you should consider how to incorporate the charitable aspect into your business structure without leaving the door open to those kinds of thoughts and or accusations.

Nip It! … in the bud so to speak.

Actually, by doing as suggested your customers and peers would have a valid interest in your annual press release because it would be more than a story on what you gave.

jordanmcclements · #**116** (**permalink**) 06-12-2007, 07:47 AM

I too am a bit skeptical, and do hate MFA sites - but at least the guy is sharing the info - and I think some of you are being a little bit too hard on him?

hold on - looking at your sponsors page:-

"Sponsor us for $5,000 or more and get a PERSONALIZED sponsor page. We will custom design a sponsor page for you! This means more EXPOSURE!"

YIKES! $5000 for a sponsor page?? Maybe you are being a little unrealistic here - but sure it does not hurt to try - so good luck to you...

orfeo · #**117** (**permalink**) 06-13-2007, 02:21 PM

Since someone else bumped it, I can ask. Is there any update on this?

Are there any sites made for this?

Any update would be interesting.

jordanmcclements · #**118** (**permalink**) 06-26-2007, 10:56 AM

Collusion, can you give us an update?

tabufx50 · #**119** (**permalink**) 06-26-2007, 08:52 PM

Yeah I heard that adding a forum to your main index page vi php and allowing users constant access to input, kinda like this forum, where you also target adsense ads relating to a topic, this content and always changing content is what the search engines salivate over. You could also hire a ton of college kids who major in English and writing to write 300 word articles that you can post to your site and submit to other ezines.

The name of the game is getting traffic and unique targeted visitors to your site from all over the place. It's a numbers game, the more clicks the more revenue.

megahertz28 · #**120** (**permalink**) 06-26-2007, 09:07 PM

Go for it dude, if you believe it, you can achieve it! Having said that, I also believe that there is NO FREE LUNCH, I think it will require tons of hard work and help from others to make it happen. Anything is possible ~ don't let others tell you that you can't because they are inept.
Good luck!

collusion · #**121** (**permalink**) 06-28-2007, 12:15 PM

REQUESTED UPDATE:

We are only at $100 a month right now but mainly because we are promoting the websites less and working on developing new websites.

The new websites are primarily for the community and they are huge, lots of code, and hard to develop.

We will post an update on the website as soon as the sites are finished.

collusion · #**122** (**permalink**) 07-27-2007, 12:37 AM

ATTENTION:

The go9500i Project is closed. Sajed and I agreed to part ways. We had some differences of opinion that could not be resolved. So unfortunately the entire mission has to be cancelled. I am now posting on my blog at Search Engine Optimization Blog from here on out. I have a new project that is BIG and you will definately want to watch.

Thank you to those who have followed us and checked us out.

RESPECT

-Brandon Connell