iEntry 10th Anniversary Forum Rules Search
WebProWorld
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read
Google AdWords Discussion Forum Is Google a part of your paid marketing strategy? Are you a current web publisher using Google AdSense? Wondering if AdSense and AdWords are right for you? Discuss the ins and outs, ask questions and share your experiences here.

Share Thread: & Tags

Share Thread:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-30-2009, 11:03 PM
WebProWorld Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Posts: 94
intelinside RepRank 1
Unhappy Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

I have setup a new campaign about 10 days ago at Adwords for some keywords related to travel nitche.

I have a keyword for which my Quality Score (QS) is 8/10 but still my AD showing is stating 'NO'.

What could be the reasons of my ADs being not showing despite of a great QS? May be the keyword I am targeting is not being searched frequently? Or is there something else I am missing?

My keyword is present in the Title of the Ad Group and it is a broad match.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2009, 08:01 PM
SnerdeyWebs's Avatar
WebProWorld Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 636
SnerdeyWebs RepRank 3SnerdeyWebs RepRank 3
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Considering that this could be a wide range of things. I'd have to ask a few questions..

1. Has the ad been clicked in the past, if so what is the CTR

2. If not, then have you tried different text on the ad copy, if so, how many times a week did you try it.

3. How many times has your ad ever been shown?

There's also a diagnostics tool that's new when your viewing the campaign. Might also want to try that.

Could just be a bug too.

Being that it's Travel.. that's highly competitive. See what others that are in your niche are buying for keywords SpyFu

It can be frustrating but once you hit the sweet spot of the web the clicks come in like crazy

Good luck!
Snerdey
__________________
20% Off Online Stores | Flash CMS | Blogs | Templates * Follow Our Twitter!
Online Since 2003 & TemplateMonster, Logos, Design Software, Custom Websites
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2009, 08:12 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

The "Key Analysis" box should state, directly above the Quality Score, the reason the the ad not showing for the specific Keyword/Phrase in question..

E.g.
Keyword Analysis: [your keyword(s) here]

Ad showing? No

The keyword phrase you've entered has a low search volume and isn't showing any of your ads.
If more users start searching for your keyword, your ad will begin to show. If you're interested in additional keyword ideas, try the Keyword Tool. Learn more about building an effective keyword list.

Quality Score: Great (9/10)

Last edited by deepsand; 03-31-2009 at 08:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2009, 06:17 PM
WebProWorld New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
freeleads2 RepRank 0
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Forget Adwords. They will never tell you why your ad runs or does not run. You never know where you stand. Everyone is just guessing. I would suggest contacting websites in your niche and developping targeted ads for those specific websites.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-21-2009, 10:20 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Setting aside the fact that your portrayal of PPC advertising is most specious, one given without substantiation, are we to understand that your suggestion is to ask competitors to advertise your site?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-22-2009, 10:16 AM
WebProWorld New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
freeleads2 RepRank 0
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

I am speaking from having spent well over $100,000 on PPC. I am not at all suggesting advertising on my site. I am suggesting thinking out of the box and finding creative alternatives to spending thousands on PPC. Google Adwords is very tricky because Google does not communicate well with it's advertisers. If they stop a campaign you have to guess why. It generally is not the reason they claim. Just look at all the forums where people are trying to figure out Adwords. Why should paying advertisers have to figure out anything? We pay for ads and they should deliver.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2009, 02:05 AM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

AdWords is "very tricky?" How so?

You must know that very many succeed very well at PPC programs, finding them to be quite cost effective.

As for your suggesting "contacting websites in your niche and developping targeted ads for those specific websites," 1) are not such the more likely to be competitors, 2) why should such sites be capable of delivering as much traffic as PPC ads, and 3) why should they be more cost effective?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2009, 08:55 AM
WebProWorld New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
freeleads2 RepRank 0
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

I have probably spent over $200k on PPC. The rules are always changing and Google never really tells you exactly what is going on if your campaigns are stopped. There are many sites which appeal to the same audience but are not competitive. Someone who has a site selling dog collars must joint venture with a site selling dog food. Their customers both have dogs but they sell different non competing products. Google is the middleman. Google finds websites and gets them to put up Adsense ads. Then they split the profits. Why not go direct? Most of the traffic from my Google campaigns is from the content network not the search. All Google is doing is running ads on websites. Why not do that yourself and cut a better deal? As for the volume of traffic this is definitely tricky. If I put lots of keywords that are related to my site I get slapped if the exact keywords are not on my landing page even though they are synonyms. If I use just the exact keywords Google usually delivers very little traffic. If I raise my bids to crazy levels it is simply too expensive. It is not straight forward hence all the forums discussing this topic.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2009, 06:43 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Quote:
Originally Posted by freeleads2 View Post
Google finds websites and gets them to put up Adsense ads. ... All Google is doing is running ads on websites.
The subject at hand is AdWords, not AdSense.

AdWords listing appear on SE results pages; AdSense ads do not.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2009, 02:22 PM
williamc's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: GoogleVille
Posts: 1,576
williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7williamc RepRank 7
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Quote:
Originally Posted by deepsand View Post
The subject at hand is AdWords, not AdSense.

AdWords listing appear on SE results pages; AdSense ads do not.
Actually, you are quite confused and should maybe stop posting until such time as that stops.

Adsense pulls its ads directly from adwords. Adsense is simply the display mechanism and freeleads was commenting on your questioning him about advertising on specific sites. Adsense merely shows adwords ads that the user has not checked the box stating he wishes his ads to ONLY show in search listings. They are the same ads.

And freeleads was actually correct is stating that oftentimes, advertising only on highly targeted sites that use adsense does, in fact, give a much better ROI than general ads that are listed in search results. If you had ever managed budgets of 50k a month or more you would already know this, but not everyone has that ability.
__________________
William Cross
Expert Search Engine Optimization

Last edited by williamc; 07-24-2009 at 02:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2009, 09:39 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Not confused at all.

AdWords Content Match is distinctly separate from AdSense. The former is a system for placing ads; the latter, for publishing them.

The OP's question deals with the former, not the latter. Furthermore, his question mentions nothing re. Content Match, with or without site placement; rather, he was simply looking to find the reason for a given ad/keyword was not being displayed, a question which has already been directly answered.

freeleads post is akin to responding to a question re. a Windows machine to just switch to a Mac.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2009, 01:09 AM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Before becoming too enamored of freeleads "advice" here, one might read I Have Been Spending $5000 Per Month on Adwords. Better Ideas How To Buy Ads?
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2009, 04:23 PM
WebProWorld New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
freeleads2 RepRank 0
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

If someone is spending $5000. per month on Adwords I think that it is a perfectly legitimate question to ask "Are there more effective ways to spend my money?" Most people on both forums seem to agree.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2009, 04:33 PM
WebProWorld New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
freeleads2 RepRank 0
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Also, my original point is that Google is not clear why ads run or do not run. The reason they give is not always the actual reason. This is especially true when it comes to quality score. Hence, all the forums all the threads, including this one, where people are "guessing" what the problem is. My point is that we should not have to guess, as paying advertisers. When businesses, even Google are not responsive to customers (advertisers) maybe it is time for advertisers to start looking for other alternatives. This is how it happens in the rest of the business world. Google just happens to be in a very powerful position. This relates directly to the original post.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2009, 01:55 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Quote:
Originally Posted by freeleads2 View Post
If someone is spending $5000. per month on Adwords I think that it is a perfectly legitimate question to ask "Are there more effective ways to spend my money?"
The OP made no complaint re. his monthly spend on AdWords, but asked a very simple question, one that was long ago answered.

Your presence here gives the appearance of being for the purpose of advancing your own agenda.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2009, 02:02 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

[QUOTE=freeleads2;453093]Also, my original point is that Google is not clear why ads run or do not run. The reason they give is not always the actual reason.[quote]
In your opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by freeleads2 View Post
This relates directly to the original post.
None of your posts here addressed the OP's question, but merely served to promote your own agenda.

We constantly see, both here and on other boards, replies that fail to answer the question as posed, but instead merely urge the OP to use a different product or service.

If you want to teach a starving man how to fish, fine; but, first give him something to eat.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2009, 04:24 PM
WebProWorld New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 23
freeleads2 RepRank 0
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

Deepsand this is ridiculous. I believe my answer gave him a good alternative to achieve his goals which is to get targetted traffic to his website. My answer is based on hard earned experience spending 6 figures over several years on PPC. How much do you spend? As for self promotion, which I have nothing against, you have me beat. Over 3000 posts with your signature! I have taken mine out as well as any reference to my sites here. Good luck.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 07-26-2009, 05:14 PM
deepsand's Avatar
WebProWorld 1,000+ Club
WebProWorld MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,060
deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9deepsand RepRank 9
Default Re: Great Quality Score but No Ad Showing !

The OP was not asking for an alternative to PPC. His was a simple question, quickly and easily answered.

As for self-promotion, the substance of my posts have nothing to do with my self-interests. And, the sig. line does not reference my site, but that of a client. (FYI, such links carry zilch PR value.)

Lastly, for commercial sites, PPC is frequently superior to other methods of getting traffic. Said client spends $500-600 per week on AdWords, from which he realizes an ROI of approx. 2100%, with a conversion rate that runs approx. 5-6 times that of the industry norm.

Last edited by deepsand; 07-26-2009 at 05:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  WebProWorld > Marketing > Google AdWords Discussion Forum

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PPC Ads Ranking Through Quality Score visitor0 Marketing Strategies Discussion Forum 0 10-29-2008 05:33 AM
Quality Score Update carpediem Google AdWords/Google AdSense 5 08-20-2008 04:55 AM
Adwords Quality Score -- Its not just about content rucci Google AdWords/Google AdSense 1 09-25-2006 05:53 PM
How do I know what my Quality Score is? JuniorOnline Google AdWords/Google AdSense 6 01-25-2006 05:46 AM
Increase Your Google Quality Score WPW_Feedbot Search Engine Optimization Forum 0 10-17-2005 01:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:46 AM.



Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.0