HELP Domain Name falsely leading to another Entity

"just imagine dolls · #1 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 02:03 PM

Hi everyone, I'm a newbee...

I have a website and my knowledge is very limited. The information shared with this form is informative. Thank you.

From some of the knowledge learned, I have found out through testing my web site that another entity is utilize my domain name to point to their website with out my consent. I’m very concerned that Yahoo or Google may think this is a form of ‘spamming” and/or have a direct impact on my positioning.

I would appreciate your assistance as to how I am to address this situation ... report them? if so how? Thank you for your comments and assistance.
Sincerely,
Alana PS Hope this is in correct area.

Webnauts · #2 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 02:10 PM

Thread moved here in the "Domains Discussion Forum". :)

**wige** · #3 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by "just imagine dolls

another entity is utilize my domain name to point to their website with out my consent

In what way is the domain name pointing to this other web site? Is it that some pages that are not your content show up when a visitor goes to your web site, or a subdomain is pointing somewhere it shouldn't, or your entire domain points to this unauthorized party?

untmarkb · #4 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 05:54 PM

Give us your URL so we can take a look.

jrb@w3f.com · #5 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by untmarkb

Give us your URL so we can take a look.

It amazes me that people talk about pages, or web sites and never give a URL.

Then you have to ask for it, thereby delaying any progress on the problem.

I don't care what or who I am talking to, they know from repeated badgering to put a URL into all correspondence referencing a page or program.

It's like leaving a message on the phone that you would like a return call, and not leaving your number, as if we all had perfect memories, or had our phone book with us wherever we go.

It is inconsiderate and unprofessional to leave it out. (Sorry for the rant, but it is one of my pet peeves.)

Look at all the posts already made with no progress for the subject submitted, or posts never made because there is no way to see what is being talked about. What a waste of time. Why would the moderator put this up for discussion without a URL?

"just imagine dolls · #6 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:07 PM

here is the url that I completed the "link" search via google, for http://www.just-imagine-dolls.com

Several listings at the bottom of the page are for differnt entities with the above URL address noted.

For Example you will see www.wendywendywendy.com and the the cite URL address is noted in the description.

Thank you

krisidious · #7 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:13 PM

i don't see these other entities... I see some doll manufacturers at the bottom, but they don't link anywhere? describe in detail how you see a problem, take us through where you click and how you get there....

jrb@w3f.com · #8 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "just imagine dolls

here is the url that I completed the "link" search via google, for http://www.just-imagine-dolls.com

Several listings at the bottom of the page are for differnt entities with the above URL address noted.

For Example you will see www.wendywendywendy.com and the the cite URL address is noted in the description.

Thank you

Again, the Spanish Inquisition...
Which URL is the one in question?
You mention two, and reference a list.

You were given a lead-in by the moderator, and you spoke of a single URL that was being discussed:

Quote:

Originally Posted by "just imagine dolls

Hi everyone, I'm a newbee...

I have a website and my knowledge is very limited. The information shared with this form is informative. Thank you.

And we have still to know what the URL is to THAT ONE!

I give up.

jrb@w3f.com · #9 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "just imagine dolls

For Example you will see www.wendywendywendy.com and the the cite URL address is noted in the description.
Thank you

If I can assume that this is the URL in question, then
Here is the explanation. (Guessing on the URL).

1. It is a parked domain.
2. It is a domain registered with GoDaddy (the Registrar).
3. They show search results if there is no actual page to show.

Conclusion:

1. The URL does not point to an active web site.
2. Might be that your DNS has not been updated. (DNS=Domain Name Service)
3. There may not yet be an actual hosted page to have the DNS point to it.

I hope this guides you to what you were looking for.
This "parking page, search listings", is common practice for registrars until the DNS gets pointed to an actual page for you.

HTH (Hope this helps.)

"just imagine dolls · #10 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:41 PM

Concerns the domain name www.just-imagine-doll.com point to other entities. Not sure why.

To do a search on www.just-imagine-dolls.com the following was typed:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=ww...om&safe=images

To my amaze I found numerous domain address such as
www.prairiedolls.com
www.buckeyedolls.com
www.wendywendywendy.com
www.dollsbyliliana.com

all of which contained my domain name www.just-imagine-dolls.com

When you click on any of the following you will arrive a "godaddy.com"

www.prairiedolls.com
www.buckeyedolls.com
www.wendywendywendy.com
www.dollsbyliliana.com

Why would the description in the above 4 address contain my domain name www.just-imagine-dolls.com

Is this normal practice?? PS My Domain Name is in good standing. That is the first thing I checked.

krisidious · #11 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:48 PM

yes it's pretty common place, what's happening is you are seen as a authority in your market to these persons, and they want to get the traffic and users that you are attracting, so they are using your name or they are just very similar in nature.

they are not stealing anything from you, if anything they are helping you...

if they linked to you, it would be even better, but that they mention your .com name is good.

I'll have a closer look and confirm this...

krisidious · #12 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 07:51 PM

ok heres the deal...

you do pay per click don't you?

well your PPC link shows up on that page that is cached by google and it was here

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=7

so now when someone searches google for that exact phrase, google says hey I saw it right here... have a look...

no harm no foul... like I said it's only helping you...

"just imagine dolls · #13 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 08:09 PM

Thank you so much for all your assistance. All the best and hope the New Year brings all of you much joy and happiness!!
Sincerely,
Alana

jrb@w3f.com · #14 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "just imagine dolls

Concerns the domain name www.just-imagine-doll.com point to other entities. Not sure why.

To do a search on www.just-imagine-dolls.com the following was typed:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=ww...gine-dolls.com
&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_ft=i&as_qdr=all&as_occt=an y
&as_dt=e&as_sitesearch=www.just-imagine-dolls.com&safe=images

To my amaze I found numerous domain address such as
www.prairiedolls.com
www.buckeyedolls.com
www.wendywendywendy.com
www.dollsbyliliana.com

all of which contained my domain name www.just-imagine-dolls.com

When you click on any of the following you will arrive a "godaddy.com"

www.prairiedolls.com
www.buckeyedolls.com
www.wendywendywendy.com
www.dollsbyliliana.com

Why would the description in the above 4 address contain my domain name www.just-imagine-dolls.com

Is this normal practice?? PS My Domain Name is in good standing. That is the first thing I checked.

1. People rarely search for a domain name as you presented it. They just type in the domain name and go there. (Though it amazes me that some of the biggest searches is google.com, myspace.com and yahoo.com as if they thought they were going there, but entered the URL on the search box instead of the address/url box in their browser.)

2. If you want to know about your site,
then enter "site:just-imagine-dolls.com"

3. to see who links to you, enter "link:just-imagine-dolls.com"

Oh, yeah, leave off the www. part.

There are other speciality searches that can show you other stuff too. Go check out google and yahoo for their specifics.

Like Kris said, they are helping you.

To find out how visable you are, don't put into the search, your domain name, but what people would put in that you want them to find you. If they know your URL, they will just go there.

The ones that go to GoDaddy, arn't pointed to a page yet. The links there are GoDaddy's free advertising on your nickle. Has nothing else to do with you.

HTH

known · #15 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 09:04 PM

I've installed Stat Counter on all my websites. Last week the entry and exit data indicated that for one of the site visitors they landed on and exited from, pages on my domain of:

www.known.com

were these pages:

The supposed page is: www.raosahebd@known.com

I am really baffled, and somewhat troubled by this. When I clicked on the landing and exit page name the known.com home page appeared on the screen

I do not have a page with the name www.raosahebd@known.com. Has anyone else experiemced anything similar to this? Can anyone shed some light on this? Do I need to be concerned? And if so, about what? Is there anyway to get this person to stop?

Many thanks in advance for your help.

Cheryl C. Cigan
Known Books
www.known.com

dean · #16 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 06:49 AM

Clicking the link in FireFox brings up a confirm box saying:
"You are about to log into the site known.com with the user name www%2Eraosahebd but the website does not require authorization. This may be an attempt to trick you.
Is known.com the site you want to visit? "
If it was only one visit, I wouldn't worry about it. It looks to me like somebody is experimenting. I don't think url hijacking, but just maybe an attempt at amazon affiliate hijacking. I don't think it would work for them, though. If you can get a lot of visits like this, then I would go further, but for only a few, I wouldn't worry. You will most likely get a few more from your post here.

known · #17 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 08:29 AM

Dean:

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain that to me and for the information about the FireFox click through. I get tons of hits from China and I think I'll click on those and look at the source code to see if it has been altered in some way. I think Holmes said to Watson, "The hunt is afoot!"

Thank you again.

Cheryl C. Cigan
Known Books
www.known.com

**wige** · #18 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 10:28 AM

This is one of those "yellow flag" things that says, not you have a problem, but you may have one soon, so keep a watch on your log files, check your site for vulnerabilities and XSS, etc.

Although a single occurance can be just a random occurance, it is a good time to check your security just in case. Any time you see "@" in a web page request in your log, you should be suspicious. There was a famous exploit about a year ago that used the "@" symbol, and resulted in rewrites of several major browsers. Because this is a reserved symbol, it is not something a user can enter into their browser. It is most likely to be a bad link, but there are some exploits that may be possible also.

known · #19 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 03:19 PM

Thank you wige!

After reading your email and the response from Dean I contacted Digital Forest. They just notified me that they have investigated from their end and that everything is fine. However, I will continue to be diligent with my monitoring!

Many thanks again for all your help!

Cheryl C. Cigan
Known Books
www.known.com