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Cash Parking Domains can be quite lucrative with a good Domain Portfolio and a choice of the right Domain Parking Advertiser.
The Boston Globe and The Wall Street Journal recently reported: Quote:
Who is the best company to park with? This site compares 13 of the top “parking lots”. But everyone is in the game now including GoDaddy who offers plans between 60 and 80% of revenue. I would like to hear anyone’s experience from different perspectives including quality, service and revenue. Thanks, Ken |
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It's always good to hear some people are making Big money parking their names. After many years in the business and now having either encountered or gotten to know at least a dozen people with large portfolios of over 2,000 domain names I still have not met anyone except one person who really makes good money for parking their domain names. Unfortunately, I'm not included in that bunch and I've tried 5 companies. Maybe someday I'll find the magic!
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NameDrive.
2 reasons. 1- after 3 years of parking with everything out there I have never seen revenue like with ND. 2- referrals. Sure all programs have referral programs and many pay higher % than the initial 7% that ND pays but - never before have my referrals gone through the roof as with ND. = my referred domainers also make money. I rather take 7% of from domain that make money. Besides you'll later get 10% of 15% when you get more referrals. See why Name drive is so good. NameDrive Success TRY them with a few names and see the difference. The CP user interface and f speed is bar none too. Don't abuse it. Domain parking is a privilege not a right.
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So Robban: Here goes---- I see you like or love Namedrive, which I think is great! How many domain names do you have? How many single word domain names ? And then finally how much do you net a month?
Thanks for your answer in advance. I want to be part of a winning formula, which I have not been able to find at the level you infer and so do many of my friends, who don't want the hassle of moving their names again without any benefits like we all have so many times before. Have a great day and like I say -- Thanks in advance! |
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Ok here goes:
As I see in simple terms there are 3 forms of PPC domains: 1 - Regular names that you like, hold on, que to sale or just want to hang on to for investment or future development. These you want to dust off and have parked as best they can so that they will minimum pay for themselves. 2 - Names that get type in traffic. This can be one word domains and typos (not necessarily misspellings but close call domains of a "target" site) 3 - Used names. Domains that had a past and now still get old tarffic from old links and old SE results. I focus on type one domains but have a few of 2 & 3. And true to form - the few type 2 & 3 are my top performers. How much money do I make? I'll tell you. 100% more than before I had my names at NameDrive. I break even. Dissappointed? I am thrilled. Just think that I have a 200+ portfolio that pays for itself. And its getting better since every month I let go of 2-5 bad names and replace them with 1-2 good ones. yes my goal is to get my portfolio down - as should every domainers goal be - quality not quantity. Just like a real estate investor who would break even with a property would be thrilled - Knowing that breaking even now means profits later - + free ownership of said property. My 2 cents. Take domain parking seriously - try a few parking spots - Just make sure NameDrive is one of them.
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I sure appreciate all the help there Robban!
I had another best practice question: I own a "Suite"; naturalyard.com +.org + .net, and am wondering what might be better; all under the same roof, or split them up? On the left hand I kind of favor them going under one roof and linking them together if they changed the content slightly to better meet the domain type. That could amplify the returns there. Will anyone listen to those kind of suggestions? On the right hand I see how they might reach a broader audience if I split them up over a wider number of ad sources. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ken |
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I have one suite that I use mostly for testing reasons. That is a great way to see what programs work best. You can also have your suite at the same company and that offers a GREAT way to test various templates within the program and different key words etc. NameDrive introduced a new template that is called canvas2. A combo of 1-click and portal. The bennies of having all those links are additional good keywords which is good for SEs. So I am using a suite to test stuff within.
The biggest difference with NameDrive besides RESULTS is that I can find just about any of my names on SEs. yeah - top spots only on exact domain word itself but that is not what I have experienced so much with other P-programs. But I am not a ND-pope. I still think its important to diversify and do something about the bottom 10-20%. (usually first within - if that doesnt work then repark somewhere else) For reasons I still havent quite figured out - some names just do better at another service.
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Not only that but it is instant. You can two windows open - change a keyword - and voila - se your ads change. It is important to check the page and see whats showing. One wrong keyword can by itself have a total different meaning and all of usdden you have 2-3-4 totally irrelevant ads.
But beacuase there is no approval process it is important that no one abuses this. We want NameDrive to continue to trust us. Domain parking biz is fine as long as it is not abused. hey even google is big into domain parking so...
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the only way to preview them is to set them "as that template" and then view the page _ BUT ITS NAMEDRIVE. They will show up IMMEDIATELY with new format.
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the only names I would recommend parking at sedo are high quality names with low traffic that you intend to unload short term.
But of course every domainer must have all their names listed with at least SEDO. I'd recommend listing at Afternic as well. Each name should be described and categorized. Takes discipline but it is the small things you do or dont that matters.
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Robban,
You have to know. I have followed your advice and opened my account where recommended. I would highly recommend that anyone with several domains to "put up" follow Robban's referral link to NameDrive above and review what they have to offer themselves. I did some research here through this process and found sincere management communications and concern posted in different forums. IMO - They are extremely serious about providing value. One of their newer templates; jux2 is dynamite. You have the choice to manage the parked site yourself or let their experts do it. Being fairly versed in SEM and SEO, I chose to do it myself, so I customized 30 parked domains. They turned out really nice! You have the choice to choose the most relevant header graphic and various templates. Note: The templates behave differently depending on the template and keyword selections you make vs current relativity issues in the SEs. If you are considering joining the domain game, make sure and visit the link provided by Robban above. My research going in here shows me that he knows his business well. Thanks again for your help Robban in my learning process here. Ken |
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Robban takes a humble bow. Thanks. Just glad I could help. The web is all about community and "the web tide lifts all boats"
Note to anyone reading my Domain Parking Guru pages: The domain parkign business as we know it is realtively new. My research dates back about 2 years. The other companies mentioned arent worth even looking into. However there are some other good players like Fabulous (especially for poker names) Trafficz (good for adult) + Parked.com and Klickerz.com. Also have tried DomainSpa but wasnt impressed. ND is by far the best overall. Need to go and update the pages and get rid of DomainHop which is a joke. Only if you have a name with huge trafic that you know wont convert you should park there - they pay for every visit - Microscopic payment - but it makes it hard because you cant even check out your own pages. Well though the control panel I guess.. Also a joke is GoldKey even though they have a nice linking feature and a feed for own hosting if you want. Anyway. ND is a great choice - But in Domain Parking and Parenting - the only constant is change...
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Now that I have been playing with parked domains a bit, I sure would like the option to edit the templates final product to include DTDs, meta Titles and descriptions and a little verbiage in text.
None of the products by any of the parking agencies seem very mature. Ken |
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This has been a very interesting thread. I have just recently started to purchase a few domains, and have been looking to park them, not knowing much about all of this.
Thanks again, very informative
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oh yeah, thanks for this! I have around 25 names now, some are regional and probably won't benefit too well, but you never know. Others are program specific or genre specific and might do better. I tried a couple on Sedo and they did nothing.
Now all I need is the time to play with this! It would be nice to at least get a chunk of my registration costs back. |
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I have just started with parking recently as well. I do not have experience with a lot of the others out there. All I know is Godaddy's cash parking is doing well by me.. Even for domains I ahve that have been dormant. Sedo did very little to nothing and even google adsense did little.
For the guys that likd ND have you ever used cashparking.. whats the comparison? Can you post your own links on the hosted domains with ND IE for link trading?
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I host at GoDaddy and so do many of my clients.
When I first looked at GoDaddy's domain parking info, it was new and poorly worded, making the price seem very high. After I parked at ND, I found that wasn't true. What do you see that they are doing different than the rest? Ken |
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I just started parking domains at name drive. I have noticed for most it is better targetted and better performance however not all. so now I will just make my decision based on where I am getting the highest RPM. Some it is godaddy and some it is name drive. So diversification would be best.
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Just an update. Name drive seems to shave about 50% off the estimated PPC and the actual PPC which is what they report 48 hours later. I like the templates but not the revenue loss.
Going to try some others and see how they do. I can say on an RPM basis name drive is performing better than Godaddy cash parking in almost all categories except for computers.
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Yah. I had an issue with NameDrive shaving my rev more than I liked. Not to mention their propensity to claim traffic is fraud when it is clearly not. I quickly lost faith in them and moved somewhere else. Luckily, I found iMonetize.
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Yeah that is one thing about ND that can drive people nuts. They should really low ball the estimate first until they can announce the verified revenue. Dont let it bother you and dont check your stats so often. They still absolutely rock. people are making very good money. Not just myself but I see my referred parkers making big money - That is the best proof. Just park a few and try it you'll love it. Take the set up seriously. See some tips at: NameDrive Success
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Ok Ken what gives? It's been nearly 3 months now since you made the change to NameDrive. I was wondering how the income was going? Have you made anything from their PPC yet over there?
I've been watching this thread and wondering. Please let us know and thanks in advance. |
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Ken I think that is the case as well and with the new Orion algo coming into play soon with G I think they are trying to improve their results and eliminate alot of the ppc ad sites on the net.
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I have just created a new domain parking system at Parketeer.com (in open beta)
It's $2/mo. for 100% of the adsense revenue and you can use your Google publisher ID or Yahoo publisher ID depending on which ad system you would like to use. Since you use your own publisher ID, you see all of the reports and earn all of the clicks. There is no sleight of hand or click-shaving. Entering domains is fast... very fast. But for people like GreenEagle, there are plenty of options that can be edited for each domain. Pick your own keywords, template, description, title, and more. There isn't much that you can't edit. |
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MikeinFlorida:
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IMO - (et-al)The "Domain Game" seems to run ahead of the game at some times and way behind at other windows in time. Where I see Domain Parking the furtherst behind right now is abiding within the current SE preference parameter; RELEVENCE. The newer algs seem to castrate normal bodily functions there, at this time. I firmly believe that if a Site can't possibly fall within certain % to relativity guidelines..... Hold the horses there! Another thought: What if they color coded ("high" end pallet - of course) overall relativity of a Site to say 1024 colors? Of course they then reduce each value on a scale of 100 for direct integration into Internal PR? We all got that one? - Having fun yet? (Just a reminder IMO-et al) Let's play: What if the major PR ranking factor had become "Relativity" in the newer algs? (LOL - As if it ever wasn't!) What would it look like then, with new and growing (invasive and non-invasive) monitoring the GOOG is doing through consent by using the Google Search Bar??? Let's just get ugly here (coming in a thearter near you soon): "What????? What the hell happened here? I have IE6 was happy with it and cruising along just fine and now I have IE7... I hope they were paying attention. Now that we have crawled to that depth: How long will it take the Domain Parking Sites to catch up? It's getting stale, but they are in the business of playing "catch-up" anyway, aren't they? This one will be fun to watch, especially if MSN usership expands greatly with that being the default SE Search exploited there from now on out. By the way, my wife (WPW-armchairvet) just brought home 3 Manx cats - Believe me they slap each other around to "there" and back. We are in for a bumnpy ride this year after Christmas---They promised to be good boys this year. Ken |
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OK Robban seems like you might have something here. OK, OK before you laugh -- get ready! I sent about 50 names over to another ppc provider I'd been considering for a long while and they have not done squat.
I guess that just goes to show Greeneagle is right. We're in for a bumpy ride with ppc undeveloped sites this year, and that's all right. I'm not counting this stuff will really make me a dime. The new algos should do there thing and limit or dare I say eliminate all the worthless junk food sties out there. So now after coming back to this thread so many times I'm gonna give ND a chance. I'll let you know how it goes! |
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Great thread.
I'm currently recommending Sedo/Sedo Pro, ActiveAudience/GoldKey, and DomainSponsor - but a poll on ParkQuick.com currently has iMonetize in the lead. It's a service that tries your domains at different services and keeps them where they do best on a given day of the week. Quote:
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You wont regret ND. They rock.
I've been now a full year with them and the revenue is just by far better than anyhting I have ever experienced. + the people that I have referred are making good income too which is all the proof I need. Quote:
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I use www.park4money.com and have had excellent results. My traffic has incresed and so has the income!
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I've been holding onto a couple of domains for several months now and yesterday signed up for cash parking at GoDaddy. Can anyone offer any advice or insight into how long it typically takes before sites begin seeing traffic and generating even a small amount of revenue? I'm patient but curious. This is all very new to me.
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i would avoid Namedrive; my grlfriend was playing with one of my domains about cosmetic surgeries and namedrive blocked my domains and suspended my account; i am very disappointed
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I've a few domains parked at sedo, some of them get up to 50 hits per month, but only a couple of click-throughs.
I've also got some hotel specific domains, <bigcity>hotels.com - does anyone know of a good technique to monetize those? i don't have the time to produce any sort of content for them at the moment, but I'm sure there must be something better out there than regular ole parking? Cheers - rich |
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I just got into parking domains two weeks ago.
I had about a dozen proxy sites which were pulling nice adsense income but the dedicated server costs were rising and so were the headaches. Also knowing Google would likely start dumping the payout for these sites I dumped them all in Godaddy Parking I picked the 80% rev share plan and am earning some very nice money doing nothing and so I've cut costs and managed to stay close to the revenues I was earning with Adsense as the better quality ads at godaddy seem to be paying more CPC and CPM and Conversion is huge comparatively Very Very Happy I made this move when I did...perhaps sooner and I would have been a bit richer and stress free. |
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Will give it a try, and report back in the affiliates forum if there is interest. - rich |
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NameDrive give the users a lot of freedom and trust. Like Live keyword updates etc. So it is up us domain parkers to have discipline. In your case you should really find out what she did to you domain and try to resolve it. ND is one of the most reputable domain parking companies. But they definitely take fraud and and other issues seriously. The approve just about anybody but they also watch you that you comply. This is just to protect their business and thus all domain parkers businesses.
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Parked has been doing the best for me lately, with Sedo doing well for domains that get a lot of views but few clicks at Parked. My latest NameMonetizer newsletter has more info.
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