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Old 10-23-2003, 08:11 PM
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Machines are operating with the binary notation while us, humans use the decimal code.
In order for us to make a simple math computation we need to enter the decimal code, which is converted into C2 (binary) code, the computation is processed and finally the result is converted back into decimal.
We have great processors right now, it’s more like a problem of principle since the processors can be made to use decimal code and skip some steps, producing more performance...
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Machines are operating with the binary notation while us, humans use the decimal code....
Dan ...careful, you may start people thinking. Like knowing that the machines we use are not digital computers but binary computers.

To review what every tech knows, a binary computer, deep down in the hardware uses switches which can only be on or off as represented by a zero volt or 5 volt(now 3 volt in many cases) output. This was good in the early days when a precise level of voltage and electron noise was hard to control.

Today, that's not the case. Noise levels are very low and voltages very percise. Soooo, why not a digital computer with 10 voltage levels. One memory cell could store the equivalent of one of the 10 digits. With binary it takes 4 memory cells. Adding numbers, which is all a computer really does anyway, would take a lot less instruction.

Actually there was a memory product introduced a while back that held 2 levels. That is 2 bits per cell. Don't know what ever happened to it though. Probably got run down in the rush to produce faster clock speeds to make up for the ineficiency of the processing methods ;-))

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Well of course, you are right. And I know what you are saying very well, since I’m a hardware developer. I use hardware simulation to create basic components(C2 Multiplier/Robertson method). I’ve made a few projects by now. That’s the reason it bothers me.
In the first step it could be just an optimization in processing like fuzzy processors.
It's only a principle.
Perhaps I didn’t express myself very well, but that was the point here, since if I get to explain it I will get only contradictory feedback and I need exactly the opposite.
But I didn’t manage that #:-(
Perhaps I shouldn’t have posted this topic...
My point is maybe it’s time to move things a little (a lot) further and I wanted to know if there is someone who feels the same way. That’s the reason I was so evasive in the topic.
I want to discuss the topic with someone who wants to think further.
My idea came from the recent discoveries in genetics.
I also write philosophy #:-)
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Dan ...careful, you may start people thinking.
I hope so...
It doesn't hurt to think...!?

And Mel, don't let 10 electrical levels stop you from moving further...
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