Vensoft, Inc. - Good / Bad?

Jeff Colburn · #1 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 02:26 PM

Hi All,

Does anyone know anything good or bad about Vensoft, Inc.?

A friend of mine who lives out of state has been offered a job, but is trying to find out more about them before deciding to pull up roots and move to Glendale, Arizona.

I did find an "I Hate Vensoft" blog, but that could be just some nutcase ex employee.

I'd appreciate any information you can give me.

Thanks,
Jeff

thakur246 · #2 (**permalink**) 11-06-2007, 06:57 PM

I have gone through KEP of Vensoft after my graduation and I am happy and working in Ohio now. All the management and every one is technical and they really make you gain the knowledge and perform on the job. nice office, multiple teams and multiple ways of making you learn real time scenarios. I got stipend ( decent enough to live) + accomodation ( again furnished but shared - max of 3/4 in two bedroom)+they paid for all expenecs for face to face interviews ( lot of big clients insist on face to face - you know how much tickets, cab..etc costs in short notice) + they did my H1B as I was on OPT + we got relocation - where in it paid for my tickets..etc + $500 for first week settlemnt ( you get salary too) + H1b is paid by them + they paid for my multiple MCP tests after I got it ( we got reimbursed only after I became MCP - this was changed since initially they were paying as you took exam then every one started taking MCP without preperation hence they changed it to reimbursement only after you succesfully complete MCP - which was fine with me) + I got $58K and later after 6 months I got hike + they offered me medical which I didn't take. When I was in market we had about 14 Marketing Executives and now the team is more than this.

Now I requested them to sponsor my GC which they are doing and it is in I140 stage - as far as I am concerned I am happy. I think so are remaining 400+ team in professional services. I am not sure if you are joining in Project team or Prof. Services - if it is CDC/Project Team or other jobs the details could vary. One thing sure is Vensoft did deliver to all of us what they said they will - everything is OPEN and clear - no headaches. I love to see more quicker response on eHelp team

About resume,we put in whatever we worked under KEP projects - no one forced or anything like this however the resume is to be made in the company format where you explain what all technologies, skills you have in detail - this is your technical profile rather than a resume.

On the blog you referred it was one of our collegue who is doing this mischivous thing because he is pissed since he wasn't given his WAC/EAC no. till he moved into H1B Status ( we all understood the reason but he was upset - now he is happy he got his h1b stamped and his wife too and back to our Pro. Services team of Vensoft!!! ) - that is rhsb11 as you rightly guessed.

Best of luck,

li33r · #3 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 12:57 PM

thakur246 is not telling the complete truth.

don't listen to him. part of his info is real but it is NOT the truth from of evil Vensoft.

Yahoo! Message Boards - General - Something about IT companies and Vensoft in General

Here is the real info about how they force their victims to fake resumes(they will ask you to put down at least 5 years which you do not have) and if u escape from to it and u will be on court. they will spam you at some good money around 100K+. they have links to the court record about suing the victims.

Watch out the trap.

li33r · #4 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

On the blog you referred it was one of our collegue who is doing this mischivous thing because he is pissed since he wasn't given his WAC/EAC no. till he moved into H1B Status ( we all understood the reason but he was upset - now he is happy he got his h1b stamped and his wife too and back to our Pro. Services team of Vensoft!!! ) - that is rhsb11 as you rightly guessed.

This is a lie, too. I saw a post from rhsb11. Vensoft is actually suing him for money since he refused to work in the company anymore. He is asking for help about laws and info that can defend himself now.

thakur246 · #5 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 02:49 PM

Who ever 'li33r' is - I am not sure what your real intentions are!!!

Please do not assume every one lies like how you had been posting lies with hidden name/id? This is not the way to compete - I am thinking that you must be doing this to hurt your competition & get benifited under the hood. This is not the healthy way to misdirect people by slander or provide false informtion on your competetion. I explained what I got and so with other my colleagues - if you think I am lying that is not correct and your cheap tactis of posting blogs with hidden names to help your job of recruiting candidates may not help any indidivudals and it will only misdirect them. All cases are public information and I never said this, obviosuly if some one comes to your house, steals and go away you too will do the same.

Please focus, work hard on your job to get results ( I am assuming you are a recruiter or marketing peson who gets commissions on every candidate you bring).
Best of luck,

thakur246 · #6 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by li33r

This is a lie, too. I saw a post from rhsb11. Vensoft is actually suing him for money since he refused to work in the company anymore. He is asking for help about laws and info that can defend himself now.

I just checked if what "li33r" ( the slander or li?r as the name you chose to be) is abusing by telling I am lying. Why don't you go through the court register online ( from your links ) and show me a case which is filed recently as you are claiming!!!

Please stop abusing me "li?r", BTW, you want to reach me feel free to send me an email- Naren Thakur.

li33r · #7 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 05:40 PM

I never used word "li?r". But, here is some info.

Here is the complete list of all court records of Vensoft case.
Docket - Civil Court Case History

See how many case Vensoft filed every year.

you can find more information in the Yahoo Message Board. See how many people actually expose the truth in there.

Or, you will say they are all wrong and you are the only truth.

But, wait a min, you work for Vensoft right?
And, I was in Vensoft, I went through the whole nightmare.

Nothing truer than after you actually be in that before.

Now here is the link where rhsb11 asking for help after he got a letter from lawyer Steven Beeghley.
MyFoxPhoenix

Wait a min, I thought he is working in Vensoft like you said. Why does Vensoft sue a worker who is happy with the Vensoft. As you said "now he is happy he got his h1b stamped and his wife too and back to our Pro. Services team of Vensoft!!!"

Hmmm......... now please think of what Mr. Naren just said.

Am I abusing Mr. Karen?

Now someone says something after some logical thinking.

Or, if you know the truth about Vensoft, then stand up and say something.
"If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning." from Effin Haole.

Thank you

thakur246 · #8 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 07:49 PM

OK you may say I am lying, today I have 100s of colleagues in varied technology practices - what about them? Is it possible for any company or any individual to scare/trap so many of US Graduates, US Citizens, GC holders for years as you claim? Please check, all the blogged slander is exclusively posted by you and rhs only, now do not go and post with other fake names just to prove your point - seeing your persistance to hurt my employer I could be wrong that whom I was thinking rhs or who told me he is rhs may not be rhs!!!

You write that I "LIED" and "LYING" - I am working for VENSOFT and I shared my experiences and I nver asked your judement call on my expereinces and please do not try to dodge your evil opinions.

What is concerning you? OK Going by your logic, saying that you worked for VENSOFT,as you claim to be, you say you did Masters in USA then you got offer and all details before you came in for training, accepted the same and got trained at VENSOFT and took paid training, ask them to pay for your software, VBTs, CBTs , availed furnished apartments, got your MCP fees reimbursed, then you made your resume ( you claimed that you made up your resume), then got placed by VENSOFT markeitng team, then you claimd your flight tickets, took relocation allowances, went for face to face interviews and claimed that amounts, got your H1B paid by them and gotten salaries as per offer and now you want to say I had been very innocent ( got trapped!!! ) and some one made me do my resume..etc since now I want to go to my friends' company and/or work at the same client they placed me ( who trapped whom and who is evil??)!!!

Please stop this - as you claimed if you had worked with us, how come you are not aware by being global alliance partners to comapnies such as COGNOS, Informatica, Boralnd,Segue, Microsoft, Compuware, Oracle ..etc by default we had all softwares accesses and worked on these software, including latest versions for training/practice - these things made me believe you never were/are part of VENSOFT. Let me know when you worked with us and which year?

Let me reiterate, I do not want to be a judge on your opinions but request is not to hurt others futures with slander which may benifit your company/ your self. As far as I am concerned and so are my other colleagues there were no suprises in what I got and I committed for 12 months and we are still continuing and we even started our GC process. I am happy and thought the offer was fare for me - had I felt it wasn't fare, I wouldn't have come so far. Am I wrong to share my views? Who are you to say that I shouldn't feel I am satisfied/happy? Not just me alone as I said we are more than 400+ in prof. services team and do you think all of us are wrong but only "you" ("li?r") are right?

When you have so much logic in writing these well articulated articles ( probably funded by your employer or you yourself may be owner of another software consulting company) what stopped you leaving in first week, second week ..etc or even why did you even gotten into the job and why did you avail tickets, MCP fees and other benifits - you should have left. I know one of my team member who came from Electrical and other one came from Industrial, tried their level best to cope up with KEP and couldn't and they explained and moved on to other field. My employer is a professional organsiation and are never unreasonable and is not in business of trapping people ( it is unbeileivable that with such a canny intelligence how can you be trapped anytime?) - No law can protect these acts as you claim especailly in US by anyone.

In my opinion if you can put these efforts in building your business or your employer business you will be more prosperous than wasting your time in these crooked ways trying to slander me as well as my employer. Please allow us to focus on our work and stop using cheap tactics - please stop here.

If some one else is following these, sorry for writing such a long message!!!

All the best,

li33r · #9 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 08:59 PM

Whatever you say Vensoft.
I did my part to warn people about Ven-mess.

Keep the way your business runs.

Time will tell. More and more people fall into Vensoft and get out.
They will tell the stories.

You said "you made your resume ( you claimed that you made up your resume)".
Yes, we did because the CEO, CFO and everyone in marketing team were forcing us to do so, if we would not do it.

Only 2 ending,
1) Fired and H visa process revoke, go home or go back to school.
2) Marketing team will not even put us in the listing for project. I don't know why but even CEO would come to you and say crap like "this is how the market is. if we don't do this. you will not even get an interview". then, another marketing staff would call the next day and say the same crap. they will not stop coming to you until you do follow their order.

They never used words "make up". They used words like "your resume is not meeting the requirement", "Please add that skill set into your resume.", "Make yourself comfortable with that skill".
BTW, "make yourself comfortable with the skill" meaning "OK. you have phone interview tomorrow. You need to learn the whole thing tonight before the phone interview."

you claims Vensoft has 100+ consultants, we asked that question before right in front of the CEO. We also asked how many people did actually stay more than 1 year in Vensoft. He did not answer the questions. That 100 number includes marketing staff and so called India offshore office. The real number of working consultants was less than 30. If you count the people who sit there for months just waiting for project, it will probably added up to 100.

Yes. Talk about the waiting time. After the MCP, all of us were at least waited for 4 months before the first project. 4 freaking months!! the longest time 1 of us waited was from Feb to Sep before he gave up and went back to school.

Just talking about it makes me feel scare. We did not being treat as a professional. I felt I was more like a tool.

Why did we wait for long time before the first project?
Because when the real IT managers interview us, they knew how to ask questions in order to confirm if you meet what you push on the resumes.

I've been in the mess long enough (just waiting on a project the whole time) to tell every detail about the business.

I am going to say more to prove I did work there.

Working Hours:
All of us, required to work Mon-Sat 7am to 8pm. I was shocked because 40 hours a week is the law. Any hours over 40 hours is should be up to the worker to choose. But, we were forced to sit in the office on Sat. Even no company will call on Sat for phone interview. In fact, we can sue Vensoft just for overloading working hours on employee. for But, no1 was able to have the guts do that for H visa's sake.

Training, KEP, etc. etc. the same crap:
You have 2 paths to choose .NET or Business logic.
you might think just 2? Either of them are big enough to have a 2 years program in order to manage to reach pro. level. And, we were only given 2 months.
Training is self-serve. You will be given hundreds of CDs that has Video lessons in it. All we were doing the whole 10+ hours was sit in front of computer and watch that.
There were no professional teachers. It was completely self-learning. That claims costs 50K+. I can
"multiple teams and multiple ways of making you learn real time scenarios" yes, that was team up with others, and building powerpoint then we taught each others. It was just not the way to learn.

Interview:
10 phone interviews. if you are lucky you would get 1 face to face. Normally, after 30 some phone interview then we had the first face to face.

Apartment:
you need share a room with at least 1 or more people. It was worse then the dorm I had before.

"NICE" Office:
They banned access to any email web sites, any job hunting web sites.
No painter that we could use for notes. They meant to be that way.
It was completely isolated from the outside job market. Only through Vensoft marketing team to see jobs.

more and more about the office and other stuff.

I can tell how the office looked and where people sit and names of the core members. I can tell how crappy the equipments were.
So, you still think I am making up the stories that I was in Vensoft.
The more you try to cover up the truth. The more I will expose what we went though.

Is that what you want? Or, Perhaps your business need to stop doing the wrong things before 1 day you all get blasted by the law then you will stop?

BTW, They have multiple different names for the same business, so that 1 goes down the other name will continues.
Vensoft inc, efulgent and SQA labs

SudheerV · #10 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 01:05 AM

Naren, this li3r guy is a bare faced liar. I am too one of vensoft employee & I too agree this guy must have ulterior motives to gain by throwing mud at Vensoft. He doesn't even know how big is Vesoft, he claims we are 30 - I think in 1997 we were 30 people!!! I heard your name, however don't remember to have met you. I am in Datawarehousing and reporting side of the work and in CA since past 3.5 years. Even I am a happy man who has good experiences with our company and I am able to settle in my job & career, I even referred my friends and they too are working with us.

I agree that you ahve every right to share your experiences, and I am not sure why this li3r is so much worked up about your experiences? Who the hell is he to comment on your experiences and getting into dual with you? He doesn't even have basic sense of how to respect other's feelings - you never even wrote anything to him nor you referred anything till he came into picture and trying to force things on you telling that you are lying. He has expressed his views and it doesn't mean he has to attack you viciously like this - the moderator must kick him out. I am 100% with you in reiterating that we belong to a professional company and very very happy with it and we don't want these junkies to spoil other's future by writing this junk.

He agrees that he got certifications and took more than 30 interviews and then took face to face interviews ..etc - this itself talks to how much effort our marketing team puts in getting 30 interviews!!! Plus he agrees that he spent morning 7:00 to evening 8:00 learning - no one is a fool to spend this kind of time - he agrees that he took monies to train himself and wants more that what he gotten - this is a proof that he got paid during training fully. He says people got H1B - again he himself is agreeing every one gotten the H1B.

It will be waste of your time to respond to this incoherent bare faced liar and since he says he left Vensoft it is good riddance!!! Let us not respond to this maniac, whose aim is to just throw mud and pretend as if he has an axe to grind or to settle scores with vensoft and spread all kinds of lies to confuse people & then ask them to join his wonderful company so that he can help them - he seems to wants to build his company in this croooked way whcih he will pay for. As you rightly said his aim is clearly to gain by spreading this kind of wrong information.

Bye,

StayAwayFromVensoft · #11 (**permalink**) 12-03-2007, 03:27 PM

i'm here to say li33r doesn't lie. i used to work in vensoft and everything li33r said is true. stay away from vensoft, if you don't want to regret on your future. and thakur and sudheerv, you two should just shut up and leave the thread.

youyahoo · #12 (**permalink**) 01-08-2008, 02:38 AM

Guys.
Be aware. These people have started such kind of operations even in India also. They lure people saying that they will be working on xyz high end technologies and once you get into that, you are gone. There are no hikes. When you ask for a hike, then they say that you havent been productive and tell all nonsense. Sometimes, they even go to the extent of threatening you that they will sue you. Never get into this and spoil you lives. Beware.

Vedavati · #13 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 04:57 AM

Hi Thakur 246..

I am planning to start the processing og H1B visa via Vensoft who assist with the same. I needed some info from you as I can see some happy ppl like you as well as some disappointed ppl with Vensoft . I am hence trying to figure out whether it works out for me or not.

I would appreciate if u could pass me on ur mail id so that I can send u a detailed mail with all queries that I have for you.

Appreciate if you coud just help me answer few doubts that I have.

Awaiting speedy reply.

Thx & Reg ...Veda

Quote:

Originally Posted by thakur246

I have gone through KEP of Vensoft after my graduation and I am happy and working in Ohio now. All the management and every one is technical and they really make you gain the knowledge and perform on the job. nice office, multiple teams and multiple ways of making you learn real time scenarios. I got stipend ( decent enough to live) + accomodation ( again furnished but shared - max of 3/4 in two bedroom)+they paid for all expenecs for face to face interviews ( lot of big clients insist on face to face - you know how much tickets, cab..etc costs in short notice) + they did my H1B as I was on OPT + we got relocation - where in it paid for my tickets..etc + $500 for first week settlemnt ( you get salary too) + H1b is paid by them + they paid for my multiple MCP tests after I got it ( we got reimbursed only after I became MCP - this was changed since initially they were paying as you took exam then every one started taking MCP without preperation hence they changed it to reimbursement only after you succesfully complete MCP - which was fine with me) + I got $58K and later after 6 months I got hike + they offered me medical which I didn't take. When I was in market we had about 14 Marketing Executives and now the team is more than this.

Now I requested them to sponsor my GC which they are doing and it is in I140 stage - as far as I am concerned I am happy. I think so are remaining 400+ team in professional services. I am not sure if you are joining in Project team or Prof. Services - if it is CDC/Project Team or other jobs the details could vary. One thing sure is Vensoft did deliver to all of us what they said they will - everything is OPEN and clear - no headaches. I love to see more quicker response on eHelp team

About resume,we put in whatever we worked under KEP projects - no one forced or anything like this however the resume is to be made in the company format where you explain what all technologies, skills you have in detail - this is your technical profile rather than a resume.

On the blog you referred it was one of our collegue who is doing this mischivous thing because he is pissed since he wasn't given his WAC/EAC no. till he moved into H1B Status ( we all understood the reason but he was upset - now he is happy he got his h1b stamped and his wife too and back to our Pro. Services team of Vensoft!!! ) - that is rhsb11 as you rightly guessed.

Best of luck,

Vedavati · #14 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 05:02 AM

Hi SudheerV
I am planning to start the processing of H1B visa via Vensoft who assist with the same. I needed some info from you as I can see some happy ppl like you as well as some disappointed ppl with Vensoft . I am hence trying to figure out whether it works out for me or not.

I would appreciate if u could pass me on ur mail id so that I can send u a detailed mail with all queries that I have for you.

Appreciate if you coud just help me answer few doubts that I have.

Awaiting speedy reply.

My mail id is vedakulkarni@yahoo.co.in

Thx & Reg ...Veda

Quote:

Originally Posted by SudheerV

Naren, this li3r guy is a bare faced liar. I am too one of vensoft employee & I too agree this guy must have ulterior motives to gain by throwing mud at Vensoft. He doesn't even know how big is Vesoft, he claims we are 30 - I think in 1997 we were 30 people!!! I heard your name, however don't remember to have met you. I am in Datawarehousing and reporting side of the work and in CA since past 3.5 years. Even I am a happy man who has good experiences with our company and I am able to settle in my job & career, I even referred my friends and they too are working with us.

I agree that you ahve every right to share your experiences, and I am not sure why this li3r is so much worked up about your experiences? Who the hell is he to comment on your experiences and getting into dual with you? He doesn't even have basic sense of how to respect other's feelings - you never even wrote anything to him nor you referred anything till he came into picture and trying to force things on you telling that you are lying. He has expressed his views and it doesn't mean he has to attack you viciously like this - the moderator must kick him out. I am 100% with you in reiterating that we belong to a professional company and very very happy with it and we don't want these junkies to spoil other's future by writing this junk.

He agrees that he got certifications and took more than 30 interviews and then took face to face interviews ..etc - this itself talks to how much effort our marketing team puts in getting 30 interviews!!! Plus he agrees that he spent morning 7:00 to evening 8:00 learning - no one is a fool to spend this kind of time - he agrees that he took monies to train himself and wants more that what he gotten - this is a proof that he got paid during training fully. He says people got H1B - again he himself is agreeing every one gotten the H1B.

It will be waste of your time to respond to this incoherent bare faced liar and since he says he left Vensoft it is good riddance!!! Let us not respond to this maniac, whose aim is to just throw mud and pretend as if he has an axe to grind or to settle scores with vensoft and spread all kinds of lies to confuse people & then ask them to join his wonderful company so that he can help them - he seems to wants to build his company in this croooked way whcih he will pay for. As you rightly said his aim is clearly to gain by spreading this kind of wrong information.

Bye,

Vedavati · #15 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 05:05 AM

Naren

Please send me your mail id or write me a mail on vedakulkarni@yahoo.co.in so that I can ask u a few doubts that I have.

Thanks...Veda

truth · #16 (**permalink**) 02-07-2008, 02:49 PM

I have worked for Vensoft for long enough to be on several projects. Everything that li33r said is true. They make you fabricate your resume. They charge clients 100k+ for your work, and give you 50-60K, if you're lucky. They are VERY litigious (they like to sue), and prey on non-US citizens, since they can easier intimidate foreigners (threaten them with their VISA statuses, and to take them to court).

I don't have the time or patience right now to explain who these people are, and what they do. Suffice to say, however, that this is not the only consulting firm out there that operates like this.

If you wanted to someday experience working for the devil, and selling your soul, then this is the place for you! Otherwise, avoid if at all possible.

Mohan · #17 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 03:52 AM

I do not agree with fully what 'truth' is telling as mebeing Vensoft employee, I see that these postings seems to aim to just throw mud at Vensoft to achieve their personal goals but not really help any one -

In first instance are you telling that Vensoft seeks actions even after you complete your agreed commitment period ( which was about 12 months when I joined)?

or
is it that you are telling that Vensoft is not good because they seek action when you do not want to stick to your commitment i.e join your friend's company (possibly even taking their business to your friend's comapany ) before completing agreed 12 months period after you took trainning, after you make them spend for your H1B, after you took monies from them while getting trained, avail the guest houses, take monies for relocation + tickets for relocation, go for face to face interviews by making them pay and get a job through their marketing by promising them in writing that you would work with them for 12 months ( i.e when you took them for a ride)? After all this looks like you are highly disappointed since after you get placed, you "smartly" wants to shift the projects to your friend's company who obvisouly can pay you more since your friend do not have none of these expences but only benifits you but at their cost?

Didn't they pay the promised salaries of about $60K or didnt' they get you job or didn't they pay you promised allowances or didn't they pay you your relocation or didn't they pay for your face to face or didn't they get/process your H1B? Where is that they failed in what they promised and they didn't do it?

BTW, as I know off, they send all documents in writing to you before you even arrive and in addition to this why didn't you leave when they gave you first full week to leave without any commitments after trying their KEP/work in their office - does it take more than a full week to understand if some thing is not good in a live office environment!! Why didn't you leave then and why do you wait till you complete everything, get a project, settle on a project for few months and then suddenly realise they are not good now that you want to take business somewhere to benifit you and send out messages throwing mud at Vensoft to cover up your misdeeds?

Do you think that some one will have to expence all the amounts and not even ask you for 12 months of billing that too at meager margins from what you explained i.e charge customers about $100K ( $50 /Hr about) and pay you about $60-$65K + company Tax contributions + 50% of your medical + H1B Costs ( $3K) + Relcoation + Certification+ Interviews + pay for training + pay for your marketing .e.tc which may come to about $43 ot $45/Hr - then you wait till you get on to the project and then jump ship and if they pursue you legally for the agreed expences - your advice is that they are bad!!!!

My experience had been that they delivered what they promised and they do expect us to stick to our promises - there were no secrets with Vensoft and everything had been like a open book right from the offer letter - they explained what they can do and what my commitments and even sent my commitments in writing as explanation + sent me the actual agreement to be signed before even I decided; What more do I want?

Why do Mr.Clean's has to go to the extent of doing false commitements, get trained, take monies and get placed and get into all these issues and post these misleading things with a great heatburn?

Mohan · #18 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 03:58 AM

I do not agree with fully what 'truth' is telling as mebeing Vensoft employee, I see that these postings seems to aim to just throw mud at Vensoft to achieve their personal goals but not really help any one -

In first instance are you telling that Vensoft seeks actions even after you complete your agreed commitment period ( which was about 12 months when I joined)?

or
is it that you are telling that Vensoft is not good because they seek action when you do not want to stick to your commitment i.e join your friend's company (possibly even taking their business to your friend's comapany ) before completing agreed 12 months period after you took trainning, after you make them spend for your H1B, after you took monies from them while getting trained, avail the guest houses, take monies for relocation + tickets for relocation, go for face to face interviews by making them pay and get a job through their marketing by promising them in writing that you would work with them for 12 months ( i.e when you took them for a ride)? After all this looks like you are highly disappointed since after you get placed, you "smartly" wants to shift the projects to your friend's company who obvisouly can pay you more since your friend do not have none of these expences but only benifits you but at their cost?

Didn't they pay the promised salaries of about $60K or didnt' they get you job or didn't they pay you promised allowances or didn't they pay you your relocation or didn't they pay for your face to face or didn't they get/process your H1B? Where is that they failed in what they promised and they didn't do it?

BTW, as I know off, they send all documents in writing to you before you even arrive and in addition to this why didn't you leave when they gave you first full week to leave without any commitments after trying their KEP/work in their office - does it take more than a full week to understand if some thing is not good in a live office environment!! Why didn't you leave then and why do you wait till you complete everything, get a project, settle on a project for few months and then suddenly realise they are not good now that you want to take business somewhere to benifit you and send out messages throwing mud at Vensoft to cover up your misdeeds?

Do you think that some one will have to expence all the amounts and not even ask you for 12 months of billing that too at meager margins from what you explained i.e charge customers about $100K ( $50 /Hr about) and pay you about $60-$65K + company Tax contributions + 50% of your medical + H1B Costs ( $3K) + Relcoation + Certification+ Interviews + pay for training + pay for your marketing .e.tc which may come to about $43 ot $45/Hr - then you wait till you get on to the project and then jump ship and if they pursue you legally for the agreed expences - your advice is that they are bad!!!!

My experience had been that they delivered what they promised and they do expect us to stick to our promises - there were no secrets with Vensoft and everything had been like a open book right from the offer letter - they explained what they can do and what my commitments and even sent my commitments in writing as explanation + sent me the actual agreement to be signed before even I decided; What more do I want?

Why do Mr.Clean's has to go to the extent of doing false commitements, get trained, take monies and get placed and get into all these issues and post these misleading things with a great heatburn?