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Old 11-16-2003, 01:26 AM
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I regularly get the "Geek Sermon" from the Linux crowd and simply have to laugh! Most of these command-prompters don't have a clue what goes on under the hood of the MS-box and don't care to learn.

Sure! There are more x-box servers on the Internet than MS-boxes -- but WHO CARES what geeksters are running to set up servers in their basements (millions of them). Check out the stats for what FORTUNE 500 businesses are running.

Sure, you can get tons of free stuff for x-boxes -- but who cares -- Compare MySQL to SQL Server -- you're talking two different PLANETS here.

With the MS-box, what you've got is a Leggo-block operating system that, with a few lines of code (VERY FEW), you can snap-snap-snap together business applications that WORK TOGETHER.

Michael Cowpland tried the "best of breed" approach with Corel Suite -- and look what happened to him!

SURE, you can hack together Unix apps and sometimes get them to talk to each other (SOMETIMES), and yes, they may run a few microseconds faster by coding them in C++ BUT -- BUSINESSES DON'T CARE! BUSINESSES WANT WORKING APPLICATIONS NOW -- TODAY.

I can snap-together a VERY powerful BUSINESS APPLICATION with .NET and MS-OFFICE technologie in a few hours that would take MONTHS for the geeksters to even dream of. My customers are happy -- they don't have to change their current desktop tools or the way they're used to working -- and I GET PAID for delivering applications ON TIME and ON BUDGET.

I'll take that any day over the 'opensource' nonsense -- which IN THEORY is great, but IN PRACTICE ain't worth a dime.

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Old 11-16-2003, 08:47 AM
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Milette

I'm keeping my eye on this one - you might want to edit a few of the potentially more inflammatory things you said to avoid an escalation.

Implying (note: I said 'implying') that Linux users are all geeks is inflammtory.

Anyone who replies, please be careful. :)
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:50 AM
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Sure desktop and workgroup servers are mostly Microsoft. Have you checked what most of the Fortune 500 comanies are running on their web servers?
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I have to be honest and say I prefer using a host who has Linux servers rather than Windows ones.
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:44 AM
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I regularly get the "Geek Sermon" from the Linux crowd and simply have to laugh! Most of these command-prompters don't have a clue what goes on under the hood of the MS-box and don't care to learn.
You have some very good points on why M$ is a monopoly. Make an operating system that integrates really well with your browser, your office suite, your programming language, your server, will apps run better and programming be easier if you runn all of those. Of course it will. And that is the reason the "geeksters" are for the most part in favor of the opensource community. It gives them a choice on what to use.

As your comparison of MySQL to SQL Server? Yeah they are two different planets. MySQL is for the most part designed for small applications for small to medium businesses that depend on speed not power. SQL Server is designed for an Enterprise. Also MySQL is only one RDBMS availabe on *x. It just happens to be opensource.

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I can snap-together a VERY powerful BUSINESS APPLICATION with .NET and MS-OFFICE technologie in a few hours that would take MONTHS for the geeksters to even dream of. My customers are happy -- they don't have to change their current desktop tools or the way they're used to working -- and I GET PAID for delivering applications ON TIME and ON BUDGET.
Good for you. You are doing exaclty what M$ wants you to do. Keep their monopoly going. Build your apps based on their apps. If they make mandatory upgrades that just means you get more money for rewriting the app again. The months that the "geeksters" took will not have to be re-written if the dist of the OS upgrades their security holes because it's not based on an M$ proprietary application.

Take my comments as you will. You are making money and keep the customer happy. That's all that matters. My point of view is not based on what software can do what faster or that most *x software is opensource and M$ costs money(usually a lot). My main point is more of a stance on monolopy's. Giving us more choice.
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Old 11-24-2003, 02:37 PM
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Most of these command-prompters don't have a clue what goes on under the hood of the MS-box and don't care to learn.
Well, if you can get under that "hood" of the Microsoft OS , your doing better than most, cause it's kind of welded shut. Personally, I wouldn't buy a car with a hood welded shut, and in essense your are with Microsoft.

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which IN THEORY is great, but IN PRACTICE ain't worth a dime.
Yeah..... tell that too GOOGLE.... they run Linux STUFF, and hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm yep.. Microsoft just tried to buy them out.
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Guys, PLEEEASE let's keep this away from big-bad-Microsoft and on the topic of Linux vs Windows (merits and suchlike)

I'm asking very nicely :)
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