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Old 12-20-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default internet is about content

I understand how some people may not think content is king. However, with out content search engines would never know what pages were about. Without content e-commerce sites would never be found. If it wasn't for people writing content about everything from how to's to news the Internet would be useless.
The Internet is driven by content without it it would be a sea of images.

Content is king. It isn't the content that is the problem. It is what search engines decide relevant that is. SEO is good because without people knowing how to optimize search engines may never find content that is important or useful. So, I feel content is important in every way shape and form.
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Google has maintained a DEAD LINK in the top 5 - 15 position for a very competitive search term (Google returns 4.5 million results on this single word term).
I give up....what is the keyword?
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Search Term: IVR (94k searches/month - Overture)
Google returns 4.5 Million results

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virus1.virus.kyoto-u.ac.jp/
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I just did that search and I don't see that result at all.
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Just ran it on 48 different Google centers and it was on the second page of every one in roughly the same position.
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Actually

I would have to say that from wishing to obtain rankings on Googles front pages, it is not anyone thing that will get a site ranked well, but a combination of solving as many parts of the algorithim that we are aware of.

In the pure reason the web exists content would have to be king as it is what the Internet was built upon.

When tcp/ip was first used in 1982 Colleges Universities Hospitals and Governements were transmitting content back and forth.

Without that initial content being distributed online there would be no links, no images, no Google ..

Content is king on the Internet just as it is on television.

Keeping the net from becoming television is the most important thing we should discuss!!
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Yes looking at the web archive of the domain you can see that no page existed there for some time. Also by checking the backlinks you can see their has been a substantial level of trust Google has given this page considering the number of .edu domains linking to it, regardless of content or the fact the website is down. I don't feel this is any proof that links are better than content rather how Google algo is easily faulted on certain queries, especially when Trust Rank and Authority websites are invloved.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:26 PM
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This is not right. as an amateur blogger all i have been able to gather in quest for a good rank is to have a good content. what other options do i have?
i have no money to pay to a SEO, no money to buy traffic, no money to use the services of fancy 'density of keywords' analysts, no money to have unlimited broadband for the hundreds of hours it requires to link to other sites.
Content was/is my only option. and now i am totally disheartened. hope google is listening.
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abuthepooh: www.bruceclay.com/web_rank.htm

There's a DIY keyword density analyzer about 1/3 the way down the page, and it's free.

As far as your blog goes, first and foremost lose the keyword stuffing. That won't help you.

Second, if you're worried about SEs bringing you traffic to a site like that, you're approaching it from the wrong angle. You need to build up your traffic base by doing two things in concert:

1) Adding unique content people can easily read and use.
2) Telling people about it (like you just did by providing us your blog link.)

You're weak on the first point. You only provide summary intros to the "articles" on your blog page, which you then link to "full articles" on another blog site that you appear to run. Merge the two...it's too confusing the way you have it now.

Also, it's okay to source information and quotes from other sites, but where is your content? Where are your thoughts and opinions? Where is the room for debate? There is none.

Once you've solved these issues, then post your blog wherever it's appropriate. Promote it by asking and giving help on forums. Write a few articles and submit them (try WilliamC's Article Distribution Center if you want to do it quickly).

From there, just keep adding content, growing your user base and don't worry that much about the SEs, and you know what will happen? They will come to you because others will start giving you backlinks, articles will start giving you backlinks, etc.

In other words, don't even worry all that much about the SEs for the first 3-6 months. Go after them when you've got the userbase. You'll find it's a lot easier this way.
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Getting someone to visit your site from a search engine is no big deal (heck, you can always pay for it). But getting a visitor to keep coming back and to recommend the site to their friends...that's why content is king.
Your site on Power Point Templates is an excellent example of this. You have tons of great content, lots of free power point template downloads, a blog, resource links, and so on. It's the type of site that once I find it, I go back time and again, and yes, I'd choose someone like you to bring my business because you obviously have passion for what you do.

If more sites were built around a person's interests or passions, then we'd see more organic content. I think Google pays attention, it just takes far longer to get noticed than it once did.

I've bounced around in Google for the phrase "weight loss" which has so many pages it's ridiculous to care. I'm found easily for more specific terms such as "eft weight loss," and "nlp weight loss," but my primary lead-in page is my before after weight loss pictures page, since that is what people apparently type in the Google search box.

So once a new set of eyeballs land on that page, what happens next is what matters Do they look and leave or do they look and get interested? That's my job: convert a viewer into a visitor, then into a frequent visitor and possibly a client. So when they say "Content is King," I think it means far more than just words on a page. If you don't have a balance between content and SEO, you may not be found in the search engines, or your site may be found but not convert, which is just as disappointing.

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I think everyone here can agree with the following:

Quality Content + Traffic = Conversions

Traffic can be attained thousands of different ways.

Do you specifically need search engine traffic to have a successful website? NO!

You DO, however, need quality content! If your visitors don't like what they see (what you have to offer), they aren't going to take any action based on what you've shown them!

While traffic plays a role in the sheer number of conversions you attract, content is what fuels your bottom line. Without quality content your website will NOT be profitable.


CONTENT IS KING!
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Without quality content your website will NOT be profitable.


CONTENT IS KING!
Then all these scrap and spam sites are not profitable?
Im guessing they make most of them with their garbage content make much more than 'not profitable'.
This is one of the many ways that rank is easily tied into profit despite content.

That dead link is one of millions of useless pages that have trust and top rank with lack of content.
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