Is this true??

ctabuk · #1 (**permalink**) 12-14-2008, 01:58 PM

You guys know more about this than I do, as you are in the States.

spiderbait · #2 (**permalink**) 12-14-2008, 02:40 PM

I don't think it's true.

I searched the NY Times website and the closest match to the term "google space station" was this one: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/te...station&st=cse

There's nothing else that even comes close.

Coincidentally, the story linked above is close in date to the one in your image (Dec. 19, 2006).

I suppose it's possible that the story never appeared in the online version of the NY Times, but I doubt it.

**cw1865** · #3 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

You guys know more about this than I do, as you are in the States.

rumours (British) / not 'rumor' (American)
programme (British) / not program (American)
Google used in both singular and plural senses, ie. 'Google have' 'Google has'
'Could this be anything to do with...' (I'm not even sure if this is British to be honest with you, but as an American I would write 'Could this have anything to do with'

The article itself is not up to New York Times' standards.

1. Our reporter, Kevin Riley.....followed by 'All we are getting is 'no comment' - (Who is the we?)
2. Use of it's (it is) instead of the proper its (possesive)
3. 'Let's hope that Google don't get up to anything silly with Sky's own satellite systems' (use of contractions when in formal writing contractions are typically not used, using the word 'silly', and the statement itself lacks objectivity.)

ctabuk · #4 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 04:12 AM

Could be an English reporter. And the We is the New York Times

Anyway, maybe the article is flawed, but this is not
http://www.google.com/jobs/lunar_job.html

No smoke without fire.

amxfan · #5 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 04:47 AM

looking at the photo what is with the spacing between the words?

ctabuk · #6 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 04:52 AM

There's more here, reminds me of that Starry Night site.
Google Sky

amxfan · #7 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 06:02 AM

On a different note maybe that is why Google co-sponsored the International Space Station Workshop and was also in attendance.

Side note speaking of Google earth.
I can get an image of my backyard from Google earth and area 51 has real nice runways. So why can we not find an old man with an oxygen tank in the mountains of IRAQ? Also where are the images of the nude sunbathers funny how no one is ever outside?

ctabuk · #8 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 06:24 AM

Google launches new space race to the moon - CNN.com

It all points in one direction!

**wige** · #9 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amxfan

looking at the photo what is with the spacing between the words?

I think the New York Times typically justifies its articles, so the bizarre spacing isn't unusual. The we, as stated above, would refer to the reporters organization, either the paper or the wire service, or the media in general. However, if this were actually a New York Times article, the first line would have the author's name, and the second would be either "Staff Reporter" or the wire service the reporter was working for. If the byline were ommitted, the first words in a New York Times article are the city from which the report is filed, all in caps. I'd call this image very suspect.

ctabuk · #10 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 11:19 AM

The reporters name does belong to a 'reporter' Ventura County Reporter - Kevin Riley

So, who knows? Might be something in it afterall.

jawn_tech · #11 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 09:27 PM

I don't read NY Times, and I don't know much about that image. HOWEVER I did read about Google seriously building a space station.

I swear it was on MSNBC.com. I'm 99.999999% sure it was, because that's what I read at lunch today. And now I look, it's not there. So the only thing I can think of is it was taken down shortly after.

I'm very much into the space sciences, and an "amateur" astronomer. I'll check around and see if I can find out anything.

Martinscholes · #12 (**permalink**) 12-15-2008, 10:35 PM

This is what I heard via a press contact at the Leicester Space Centre, who wants to remain anonymous, so, i.e., in a job!

Why have Google acquiesced to the Chinese so readily in recent years? Easy! So as not to bugger up this deal!

The Google Space Station is, in fact, a private funding by Google of a modified version of the Chinese Space station programme, and the launch/launches use the "CZ-2E(A) Intended for launch of Chinese space station modules. Payload capacity up to 14 tons in LEO, 9000 (kN) liftoff thrust developed by 12 rocket engines, with enlarged fairing of 5.20 m in diameter and length of 12.39 m to accommodate large spacecraft [57]" (Partly from Wiki Chinese space program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The launch took place -I am reliably informed- from the Hainain Spaceport, and mission control is from the Beijing Aerospace Command and Control Centre, though there's a direct link to Google's HQ in Mountain View, Ca., where former NASA staff -let go due to budget cuts- are helping oversee operations.

It is thought one of the main reasons why Google are funding this space station programme is because they will use the Space Station to co-ordinate a series of Clarke Belt satellites, from which Google would be able to provide stable satellite Internet and TV programming to the entire world. So this would confirm the point in the article about the war with Sky. After all, Sky doesn't own one satellite, and Google now owns the basis of a space station -more components are to be launched over the next few months- and will be able to use the space station to launch the Clarke Belt Satellites by seeding them as it orbits the Earth, and then position them using propulsion units on the satellites.

It's my understanding that the space station is small, because it is the first part of a four-unit space station, though this could be expanded to a maximum if eight pods, all from the small central unit that is already in orbit, though not yet manned, or so my contact at Leicester had heard, via his contact in Mountain View, a former NASA employee.

By the way, the spacing between the words is a common problem in Newspapers. Quark Express, for example, will do that. Even though they bill it as the best publishing design programme in... oh! Sorry! I was going off on one!

Don't get me started on newspaper design and sub-editing!

But a side issue, if Google can't get Adsense and Adwords right, why are they bothering to go into bloody outerspace?? Unless, of course, they consider Adwords/Adsense as small fry, compared to this? After all, there will be Billions and Billions of $$$ to be made by private corporations when they come to the exploitation of the moon, the asteroid belt, etc. Maybe this Google in Space idea is something that needs to be watched? But by whom??

ctabuk · #13 (**permalink**) 12-16-2008, 04:41 AM

Thanks Martin, excellent research. It would appear that the battle is really between one Rupert Murdoch and someone within Google. Read on...

Peter Osnos is not really a Cable Gamer, but the publishing veteran has been around the media for his entire career, and he continues to be interesting. (Even as he, like so many media types, now finds himself working for a non-profit foundation, albeit a foundation with a strong orientation toward the media.)

In this column published by The Century Foundation, Osnos notes that book publishers are being more energetic in protecting their rights than newspaper owners. Indeed, the publishers recently won a big settlement against Google and its online book operation.

That's a strange turn of events, because book publishers are seen as a sleepy, behind-the-times bunch. But as Osnos argues, it's newspapers, not publishers, who are letting Google kill them, by putting their content online, for free, all searchable by Google.

Osnos concludes:

This is a complicated subject, as the hefty book publishers’ accord makes plain. But the issue itself is very clear: the collection of quality news is expensive, and it is seriously threatened. Google drives a very hard bargain in pursuing its business interests, but can be brought around by persistence and grit. There is a vast amount of money changing hands for news these daysA way has to be found—and fast—for those now making money from the distribution of news to pay for it.

OK, so that's newspapers. But now question for Cable Gamers: What about TV? After all, it's only a matter of time--and not much time--before Google, which owns YouTube, figures how to make TV video all searchable.

One who seems aware of this looming threat is Rupert Murdoch, who recently explained his view of Google to Australian reporter Terry McCrann. Murdoch tells the reporter that he likes the Google Guys but that his personal affection for them does not fully extend to their business relationship. Here's Rupe on Goog, explaining the need for the search company to have a significant competitor:

Then he gets serious. "It - Google's dominance - is a danger to us. We want to see Microsoft still strong. To get Yahoo, to at least have a base of perhaps 20-25 per cent of the search business. To hold on to it. To try to be a competitive factor.

"So when it comes up for our sites, to let out the search business, I would prefer two bidders," he says dryly. "Not one."

In making that argument, Murdoch echoes, interestingly enough, a similar declaration, made two years ago, by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to Business Week. Ballmer echoed Osnos, too, when he observed that Google's business model is to wipe out copyright holders, aka, the media: "And what about the rights holders? At the end of the day, a lot of the content that's up there is owned by somebody else."

Martinscholes · #14 (**permalink**) 12-16-2008, 05:52 AM

I wonder? Does Murdoch have any contacts in industry who might want to join in a private space race?

Meanwhile, someone seems to be hedging their bets!

Google co-founder books Russia flight to space station - International Herald Tribune

Dubbya · #15 (**permalink**) 12-16-2008, 11:27 AM

Hey, if Amazon founder Jeff Bezos can build a suborbital space center, why wouldn't Google try to "one-up" them?

Amazon founder unveils space center plans - New Space Race- msnbc.com

Dubbya · #16 (**permalink**) 12-16-2008, 04:59 PM

Looks like Google has been working with NASA since 2006.

Quote:

NASA and Google also are finalizing details for additional collaborations that include joint research, products, facilities, education and missions.

Source:
NASA - NASA and Google to Bring Space Exploration Down to Earth

Google's Super Satellite Captures First Image
Wired.com reports on the GeoEye-1 October 8, 2008
Google's Super Satellite Captures First Image | Wired Science from Wired.com

Includes photos as well.

Here's the GeoEye-1 tracker API... this is pretty cool
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=33331

Martinscholes · #17 (**permalink**) 12-16-2008, 05:07 PM

So there is now a private space race, but one with input from the Chinese government? Interesting.

I wonder if Murcdoch will pal up with Amazon? But would Amazon want to offend Google? And as Russia raided Murdoch's Russian offices late last year, would he be interested in a deal with Russia? Doubtful. Murdoch is a pragmatist. Will we see Murdoch going into business with Google and the Chinese?

ctabuk · #18 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 04:34 AM

Wow, I had a phone call from a Sky reporter and he said that they put this picture out last year.

Here's Google looking at us.

I'm hoping for more info out of Sky, but they are very tight lipped about it.

Martinscholes · #19 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Wow, I had a phone call from a Sky reporter and he said that they put this picture out last year.

Here's Google looking at us.

I'm hoping for more info out of Sky, but they are very tight lipped about it.

Yes, I'll bet they are!

My contact at the Leicester Sapce Centre seems to think that there's going to be some deal that will come out in the New Year. When I aksed what, he laughed and said: "Look to the skies!" Now, as he rather like his puns, I think I know where he is coming from!

ctabuk · #20 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 06:07 AM

This thread is being zoomed around the globe. The BBC know about it!!!!

or will shortly

Martinscholes · #21 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 06:07 AM

I'd somewhow forgotten this! Google have previous form for being involved in the space race!
Google funds $30 million moon prize - Cosmic Log - msnbc.com

ctabuk · #22 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 06:46 AM

Well it's so obviously the end for SKY TV.

Mr Murdoch must know this surely? The minute Google start on line TV transmissions with us guys using our 42" flat screens as monitors, then satellite TV is a dead duck.

Martinscholes · #23 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Well it's so obviously the end for SKY TV.

Mr Murdoch must know this surely? The minute Google start on line TV transmissions with us guys using our 42" flat screens as monitors, then satellite TV is a dead duck.

Unless, of course, we could see the advent of GoogSky TV?

That would make sense, from economic and logistic points. Though the MMC might have something to say about that.

TrafficProducer · #24 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 09:00 AM

I believe that the Internet has only recently been "Plumbed in" to the Space Station... Guest what the Home Page is

By that’s a long cable J

Google Copernicus Center is hiring

That looks like a Google Gravestone on that website image to me, are Google trying to tell us something... maybe it’s don’t drink Google Juice

Martinscholes · #25 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficProducer

I believe that the Internet has only recently been "Plumbed in" to the Space Station... Guest what the Home Page is

By that’s a long cable J

Yes. Looks like Everyone's Gone to the Moon!

(Who else is old enough to remember that song?!

TrafficProducer · #26 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 09:16 AM

Everyone's Gone to the Moon!

I remember "Messing about on the river" and that song.

Martinscholes · #27 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficProducer

Everyone's Gone to the Moon!

I remember "Messing about on the river" and that song.

Nice memories!

Martinscholes · #28 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 05:22 PM

This looks worrying! First Clients Singed up for a Trip on Commercial Space Station - Technology - InfoNIAC

hot stuff, huh?

Martinscholes · #29 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 06:47 AM

I don't know what this. But it might be related:

Google Space Station Party - Google Discovery

ctabuk · #30 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 07:26 AM

Oh Boy Oh Boy, read this.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...iantbreach.htm

No wonder they are building a space station, the planets doomed. We're all doomed!

kgun · #31 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Mr Murdoch must know this surely? The minute Google start on line TV transmissions with us guys using our 42" flat screens as monitors, then satellite TV is a dead duck.

Personally I will prefer our Ad free channels NrK1 and NrK2.

Clusty Search » NASA Google Space Exploration

Look at the clusters at the left menu.

Don't forget, It is most probably a secular bear market.

Martinscholes · #32 (**permalink**) 12-20-2008, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgun

Personally I will prefer our Ad free channels NrK1 and NrK2.

Clusty Search » NASA Google Space Exploration

Look at the clusters at the left menu.

Don't forget, It is most probably a secular bear market.

I tend to look for programmes I like. Time Team -the archaeology programme- which is on Channel 4, for example, is the only programme I watch regularly.

TrafficProducer · #33 (**permalink**) 12-20-2008, 11:19 AM

A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field

Don't the magnictic solar wind knock satellites off comms?

No wounder people who use GPS get losts

Martinscholes · #34 (**permalink**) 12-20-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficProducer

A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field

Don't the magnictic solar wind knock satellites off comms?

No wounder people who use GPS get losts

Could explain a lot.

Martinscholes · #35 (**permalink**) 12-20-2008, 11:30 AM

I searched on Google Space Station to get some more background and this site came up. In Chinese (?) so I can't understand it...

Space Station ÏÂÔØ 1.1,¹ã¸æÍÆ¹ã,µç×ÓÉÌÎñ,ÉÌÎñÓ¦ÓÃ,Advertising software promotion software download,Èí¼þÃâ·ÑÏÂÔØ

ctabuk · #36 (**permalink**) 01-05-2009, 09:26 AM

SPOOF OVER

Many thanks for all the contributions. Kevin Riley screwed up the date on the article.

I'm looking for idea's on next years. So if you have any please PM me.

Have a great 2009 David

Martinscholes · #37 (**permalink**) 01-05-2009, 06:19 PM

OK, David!

Some ideas will be winging your way, ASAP!

That WAS fun, wasn't it?

What about a spoof about a system that takes over the control of your car and puts the brakes on, if it thinks it should? Oh, wait! sorry! That's a REAL story. Though it should be a spoof...

That's Motoring: ISA. Boon or curse?

jawn_tech · #38 (**permalink**) 01-05-2009, 06:24 PM

It's curtain call already? Ok actors, everyone join hands and take a bow.

And for my part, I'd like to thank the academy....

Martinscholes · #39 (**permalink**) 01-05-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn_tech

It's curtain call already? Ok actors, everyone join hands and take a bow.

And for my part, I'd like to thank the academy....

I have to say it was most enjoyable. a really good piece of fun.

I have this idea that someone, somewhere, is saying: "Hey! Although that was a spoof, it turns out the Chinese really DO have a space station programme that is fairly advanced. So, I was thinking, maybe we should call the Chinese?"

jawn_tech · #40 (**permalink**) 01-05-2009, 08:43 PM

It's always a pleasure and a privilege going along with one of ctabuk's masterpieces.

For nostalgia's sake, let's run the clip from a previous episode in history when it even made Google News...

... and it got a few feathers rattled.

In the yeeeeeeear 2005....

(that thread gets funnier every time I read it)

ctabuk · #41 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 07:55 AM

Yes that was my idea, JMiller did a great job, One forum who will remain nameless (Sorry Aaron Wall) even posted that two WPW Moderators were guilty of causing Internet mayhem.

Dubbya · #42 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Yes that was my idea, JMiller did a great job, One forum who will remain nameless (Sorry Aaron Wall) even posted that two WPW Moderators were guilty of causing Internet mayhem.

Just two moderators? Wonder whom they might be?

BTW, anyone wanna buy a Google logo template for Photoshop? They do come in handy when editing space station photos.

ctabuk · #43 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 10:43 AM

You did a fantastic job on that Warren. Actually thinking back - JMiller was admin in those days.

jawn_tech · #44 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 05:01 PM

JMiller (aka Jason Miller) is still a writer / editor for WebProNews, but due to iEntry growing exponentially I'm sure his time is being devoted in that capacity rather than as admin for WebProWorld.

Dubbya · #45 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

You did a fantastic job on that Warren.

Aw, shucks! T'werent hardly nuthin!

jawn_tech · #46 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 05:44 PM

Warren? I thought your name was dubbya.

Dubbya · #47 (**permalink**) 01-06-2009, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn_tech

Warren? I thought your name was dubbya.

Yep, thass right.

dubbya, aye, awerr, awerr, eey, enn.

Y'all kin jess cawl me Dubbya.

kgun · #48 (**permalink**) 01-12-2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Yes that was my idea, JMiller did a great job, One forum who will remain nameless (Sorry Aaron Wall) even posted that two WPW Moderators were guilty of causing Internet mayhem.

http://www.webproworld.com/breakroom...tml#post331042

mayhem Unknown word to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn_tech

JMiller (aka Jason Miller) is still a writer / editor for WebProNews, but due to iEntry growing exponentially I'm sure his time is being devoted in that capacity rather than as admin for WebProWorld.

Yes he and the other moderators are. Growing exponentially in a bear market is impressing.

ctabuk · #49 (**permalink**) 01-12-2009, 09:54 AM

Mayhem ' A violent or damaging action' A bit like some posters here at WPW

(JOKE!!)

kgun · #50 (**permalink**) 01-12-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Mayhem ' A violent or damaging action' A bit like some posters here at WPW

(JOKE!!)

There is always a bit of seriousness in a joke.

And when you are very tired, you may be sensitive to bad jokes. Theoretically, it could be the final effect that killed you.

Scientific English studies conclude that stress kills.

I am by good health, so don't worry.

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