Can you be more specific? I commented directly to your posts. What is a personal attack in my answers. I also prefer direct language.

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Correction. It should be ear gas. And it continues.

This is better. Now you are getting philosophical. My too short answers in blue.

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Water off a duck's back. Several people have referred to his awful behavior, some have stopped posting, a thread he started was deleted because it was about Danes being pigs (he objected to that, saying that it was a misunderstood joke) and still he keeps going. Perhaps my suspicion that he is a drunk was too charitable. He may really be like it all the time.

Here's a post from a different thread. Remember it ?

More ear gas. Clicken has written so many different comments to my posts. Was it a random draw?

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"loss-leaders New concept to me".

Together with politeness, and thinking.

Here that is called a black lie.

That post deleted by moderator ctabuk went like this.

Heading:
Why UK loves Denmark?

Message:
Hint UK breakfeast and Danish Bacon.

It was a joke. Another infinite loop from you.

What about your serious comments on Britain in this thread. That is not jokes or am I wrong?

Your lobbying is not successfull to me.

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Of course you're wrong, as usual. My only reference to the UK in this thread was about unethical British laws.

Have you started hallucinating ? Pink elephants perhaps ?

CaseIf

Thahappysmoker makes a comment

Case 1: Is it meaningful?

Case 2: Is it on topic?

Case 3: Is it ear gas?

CaseElse

Is it the start of an infinite loop?

Then

Break. My action.

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You seem quite paranoid about this. You've previously made similar comments to other people who have objected to your rudeness.

The only person who's out to get you seems to be yourself. Try some self control.

Is it possible for you to produce anything but ear gas?

http://www.webproworld.com/breakroom...tml#post350478

It is even a break on this forum's rules.

"Inappropriate Behavior

* DO NOT Make Inappropriate or Offensive Posts - including threats, harrassment, swearing, prejudice, slander or deliberate insults/name-calling, or other negative remarks about WebProWorld, its moderators and administrators, iEntry, or your fellow members. Even if this is just your own personal opinion, RESPECT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS"

My bolding.

Forum Rules and Guidelines

You are not a moderator here.

Can you give some proofs? If that of Clicken is the worst you can come up with, I am not very impressed.

Advice: Take a Danish bayer, relax and have a nice weekend.

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What a clever chap you must (erroneously) think you are. "Ear gas", which you so frequently refer to, is sound (hence the word "ear"). Since this forum is a written medium, there quite clearly isn't any, although a lot of your posts tend to stink, which doesn't appear to be a written possibility.

To have YOU of all people, quoting a rule about being offensive must be the silliest joke I've heard this year. However, I respect you as much as you show yourself to deserve. More than that would be unreasonable.

No, I'm not a moderator here, but that doesn't mean that you have the right to be offensive to me. If I WAS a moderator here, you wouldn't be here at all. To my mind, people (like yourself)who make a sport out of being offensive have no place in a public forum.

You want proof ? Scroll back to Sparky's post. Quote: "Kgun I don't know why you feel the need to personally attack me or to belittle me............"

Why would I want to impress someone like you ?

Why do you use a word like "bayer" here. This is an English language forum, and I don't even know what language that word is supposed to be. It's certainly not English or Danish. Still, why should you respect such an idea as writing anything which is understandable ? As long as it amuses you, that's all that matters, isn't it ?

Don't wish me a nice weekend. It's insincere and sarcastic.

Proposal:

1. Read back to where I used the word lobbying. Reread the thread where you was offensive to Indiana.
2. My comment to the original post in blue and the comment about personal attacks and my question about being more precise has nothiing to do with lobby activity.
3. I asked if you could quote a post where I have been accused of lobby activity.
4. Can you please explain the word lobby activity?
5. If I can prove or make it probable, that you are lobbying, will you admit that that is unethical?

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1. No. (Do you have any idea why Indiana was there at all ? Clearly not).
2. Good for you. So what ?
3. No you didn't
4. No. Can you ?
5. No. It isn't.

Summarizing I will explain it by example:

1. This thread where you continue a discussion from another thread that may be hidden to that thread's starter.
2. One moderator in this thread once pointed out someting like this: "And you are only contributing in the break room". You know which thread. Then you was "saved" by another modertor.
3. You changed your tone towards Indiana, once the same moderator said that he knew Indiana from another forum.

My personal opinion: That is proof of lobby activity.

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What example ?

(1) Hidden how ?
(2) Untrue
(3) Untrue

Your opinion on this - worth about the same as all the others - i.e. nothing.

If true (it isn't) what difference would it make ? What is wrong with lobbying ? Are you now inventing a new crime ?

I think it's about time for you to stop this nonsense.

Yes, if you were a moderator, as a man with totalitarian tendencies, you would most probably be here alone talking to yourself (producing ear gas) in two mobile phones.

To be more precise on the term: "as a man with totalitarian tendencies". That is my personal impression after reading your opinions regarding market economy and economic political systems. That is an infinite loop topic, I will not take with you.

By the way: If I WAS is incorrect English. If I were, is correct English. That is a huge semantical error.

The best advice from you aside from one word.

You are a funny Danish man and deserve the title "WPW's producer of ear gas."

Don't export it to Norway please.

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To take one point:

Seemingly you have left, but back to topic, let us take one point.

ODP - Open Directory Project

Search that site for adult related material.

1. Look at the number of Categories.
2. Look at the number of Sites.

I asked where you came from and how old you are. That is direct questions. How long have you surfed the web? How many internet pages have you made? What do you know about safe search filters? Do you participate on other web forums? What do you know about filters and options in different web browsers? What do you know about blocking IP's and IP regions in .htaccess?

Ethical investment:
The Central Bank of Norway decided for ethical reasons to eliminate their investments in Wal Mart. I don't agree, and you will find the Wal Mart banner on my sites. A new canditate for an infinite loop discussion.

The ethical road is a very hard road to walk.

Ethical investment, if you are consitent and dig deep enough, you can soon end up placing your money in the bank (and under certain market regimes that is safest). But that imaginary bank has that leader that is a specialist in lobbying people to death or desperation. Oh my God, I have to place the money under my bed.

But under my bed? Is that an ethical place to place the money?

Moderator: Don't allow thehappysmoker to participate in this discussion. He will say that it is unethical to have money

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Kgun, you are an extremely rude person who delights in trying to ruin the pleasure of others who use WPW´s forum. I don't know why they allow you to continue with your offensive rubbish. You clearly have neither self-respect nor respect for others. You are just a rude nuisance. My grammar may occasionally be incorrect. Yours is seldom anything else. Don't correct my use of a language which you have only a very slight grasp of. STOP being offensive ! STOP ruining this forum ! STOP !

Yes, I know that may be a good advice. I can not turn off my brain and my style of writing. I shall stop in the break room as a first option.

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I look forward to it, and I'm probably not alone (if there's anyone left).

However, I won't believe it until at least a week has passed without your rude disruption.

After reading the various posts, I would suggest that most actions, we, on a very intuitive basis, can readily understand if the action is ethical or unethical. The 'easy' questions aren't particularly worthy of analysis. Naturally, there are more interesting scenarios which can present themselves from time to time and in those scenarios it may not be completely obvious if the action is ethical or unethical.

I would suggest taking into consideration many factors for you to judge actions by including, but not limited to:

a. the legality of the action - while not completely dispositive, this is usually an excellent place to begin your analysis. While illegal actions can be ethical and legal actions unethical; GENERALLY speaking most illegal actions are unethical. Remember that the common law doctrine of necessity is still generally recognized to preclude criminal liability in those instances where an illegal action is undertaken to prevent a greater harm (excellent example is speeding in your car while trying to get a person to the hospital who just suffered a heart attack)

b. the consequences of the action - most of us have heard the expression, 'the end justifies the means' which is rather Machiavellian, but nevertheless as intelligent people we must always be considering the consequences of our actions. In many circumstances, it may be difficult to forsee the full consequences of your actions.

c. the consequences of inaction - when considering the consequences of an action, it may also be necessary to consider the consequences of inaction. Sometimes we are put in a position where we are faced with two troubling choices; usually the question posed is framed in the sense that a certain action will cause great harm, but failing to act will result in even greater harm. Most of us would not envy being in this position, ie. its akin to 'Sophie's Choice' or the decision of a water dam operator to release water building up behind a dam knowing full well the damage that can be caused downriver, but knowing that waiting until the dam completely bursts will cause EVEN more damage.

d. justifications - unfortunately in business you will be invariably forced to make decisions which you know will affirmatively harm others. An excellent example is an employee termination. Nevertheless, when such decisions need to be made, you need to consider the reasons/justifications for your actions, ie. Is your action justified under the circumstances?

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You make some good, interesting points.

I remember a few years ago, here in Denmark, a fire-engine, on its way to a fire, was pulled over by the police, and the driver charged with speeding and jumping a red light. It was a crazy comedy situation, and, to my mind, a very bad action which could easily have caused someone's death, but what were the ethics ? The police were enforcing the law (which is their job), and the firemen were speeding to extinguish a blaze (which is their job). Is there a right and wrong involved here ? Is common sense more important than law ? If so, who should decide when ? I have sometimes wondered whether there was an ulterior motive, but if so, it never came to light.

To kgun and the Happy Smoker: please play nicely! Many of those posts between the two of you above should be deleted for hijacking the thread and flaming, but I am too lazy to do it and besides this is the breakroom so we will allow some latitude on hijacking, but, please, no flames ... it's hot enough in here as it is ...

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