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Old 01-09-2006, 11:56 PM
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I hope this forum isn´t as prudish as webmasterworld and will allow my post. I have an idea for an adult TGP (thumbnail gallery post). However I'm hesitant.
Can anyone give good arguments for why porn is bad? Or not?
Arguments like porn being immoral because scripture or preacher says so do not concern me.

What does concern me are three things:

1) Is it harmful for the models?
2) Is it harmful for the viewer?
3) Is it harmful for me (to be exposed to it day in, day out)?
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:26 AM
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Why are you asking us, should you be answering those questions?
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:33 AM
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Yes, I feel everyone should ask at least them self´s if their actions are possibly harmful. Perhaps there is someone wise here that would care to give his/her oppinion on a subject that is usually ignored by everyone. I´ve given this a lot of thought and am trying to get out of my head, see if there are some angles I´m missing and in genaral I´m just asking this friendly forum, what do y´all think about this?
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Old 01-10-2006, 05:28 AM
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1) Sometimes but mainly I wouldnt think so.
2) No, if they're looking at it then they obviously want to see it!
3) Deffinitely not - it'll just become your norm and you'll get used to it.
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Old 01-10-2006, 06:42 AM
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1. So long as its not against their will (which sadly does exist)
2. So long as its adults that find it and not children. There is a rating system - IRCA (http://www.icra.org/) that rates your website and prevent it being viewed by PCs with parental controls.
3. You'll get used to it. However, you might need regular eye tests! ;)

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Old 01-10-2006, 09:47 AM
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I hope this forum isn´t as prudish as webmasterworld and will allow my post. I have an idea for an adult TGP (thumbnail gallery post). However I'm hesitant.
Can anyone give good arguments for why porn is bad? Or not?
Arguments like porn being immoral because scripture or preacher says so do not concern me.

What does concern me are three things:

1) Is it harmful for the models?
2) Is it harmful for the viewer?
3) Is it harmful for me (to be exposed to it day in, day out)?
its all about how you feel regarding it. but if you are posting here, you have reservations about it. consider building it for cars then licensing it for general use.
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Old 01-10-2006, 11:01 AM
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It's good that you are asking the question, rather than just not caring.

I have a few adult sites and blogs along with mainstream, and can say that it's very competative, so requires a lot of effort, but the rewards can be high.

As for your moral concerns, you can argue that it's not one of the most accepted industries, but there is a high demand for it. People who may think it's wrong often watch it themselves.

The models that you are likely to be promoting, are the types who decide to go into the industry, which is their choice. Whether it damages them is a matter for them.

Once you have put together many galleries, you wont be bothered with wanting to look at more of it, so it's probably not harmful.
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Old 01-11-2006, 10:05 AM
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I am not for porn, but know many things that aren't better:

politics
export of democracy with bombs
sale of harmful medicines (and than hiding behind lawyers)
...

porn isn't much better, but isn't much worse too.

but there are some things I hate about porn:
(1) do you really think that 10 year old kid will click 'I am under 18 years and do not want to see this'?
(2) child prono - this is horrible, I am ready to personally kill those who film this.
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Old 01-11-2006, 03:24 PM
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I'll put aside my Biblical perspective for this one in an effort to help.

Is it bad for models? I think so but I'll let the people decide.

What happens if a model is also a mom and other kids where her kids hang out, school etc., get a hold of this material and confront her kids with it? Does it have a positive effect on them?

If a girl or woman chooses this as a way to support herself or her family, what happens to her income stream when she gets too old for the profession anymore and hasn't developed the ability to support herself some other way?

Does this industry provide an atmoshpere where healthy personal relationships and marriages can flourish without a lot of psychological and emotional baggage?

Is it harmful for the viewer?

Does it project a realistic image of women viewers can expect to encounter in daily life?

Does it lead to sexual frustration and unhealthy sexual relationships for viewers who anticipate all women to be this provocative and sexually active and stimulated only to find out that normally it's not like porn portrays it.

In other words, does it create an unrealistic sexual expectation?

Daily exposure;

See above.

Although I have been a Christian for quite awhile, I am not a prude. I have experienced a lot of things in this realm that would shock mom and dad. I guess rather than the question of harm, it might also be helpful to discuss what good can come of it. Like everything in life, we must weigh whether the benefits outweigh the costs before we make the investment.

Personally, I prefer to invest in things that go beyond my sensual urges and confine those to my relationship with my wife of 31 years.
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So long as we're talking about consenting adults, I don't think you have any problems.

As far as damaging to the models I am assuming of course we're talking about consenting adults again, but no I don't think it's necessarily hazardous.

As far as harming your viewers I would certainly advocate you follow best practices insofar as access is conerned. In other words you obviously wouldn't want to porn spam anybody's 4th grade bible school email list.

As for you, I supposed that's somethign you will have to answer. Will it hurt you to be around it every day? I dunno. Will it? It isn't going to hurt hurt i don't expect. You aren't dealing with radioactive materials or anything - but it may bother you. Only you can answer that one though.

Neat thread.
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:09 AM
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Since you're contemplating this you're obviously in the loop where you have access to women in the industry.

You can do this somewhat scientifically. Find 100 active models and 100 models inactive (read that no longer in it) in the industry ask them the same questions, record their answers, quantify the results.

Asking all of us who are not involved just gives you an answer predicated on our individual morals and ethics. If we're not in the game, we can't have a complete understanding of the impact of this work on the women.

For example, if you've never made a living as a mechanic (I have), can you truly evaluate the positive and negative aspects of that career choice?
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:15 AM
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Default PS Harmful.

One thing to add to Mikes 'Consenting Adult' idea.

Usually at 18, we're considered 'consenting adults'. I don't know about you but I sure made a lot of dumb life altering decisions at that age that later proved harmful to me.

The whole consenting adult idea caves in to the notion that we don't have interpersonal relationships that imply certain responsibilities to one another. I happen to think we do. Not because we're obligated necessarily but because we can and do exploit vulnerabilities in other people. Just because they make a good or bad decision as a 'consenting adult' doesn't let us off the hook if we cause harm to come to them from our actions.
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