Man, do you folks ever go to bed early!

mikmik · #1 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 01:01 AM

Seems I'm just waking up to a good 'session' (9:00 pm PST, 01:00 am WPWST) and the only people here are the nogoodniks! aka "el stupido gringoesx4.5"!

All kidding aside, maybe, what hours do people here generally keep? I am unencumbered by family or office responsibilities, so I pretty much come and go at random. I should really try to maintain a regular sleep/eat cycle, it is healthier, after all, but lately I'm up - whenever.
How unusual is that? How do others organize their time?

ronniethedodger · #2 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mikmik

Seems I'm just waking up to a good 'session' (9:00 pm PST, 01:00 am WPWST) and the only people here are the nogoodniks! aka "el stupido gringoesx4.5"!

I have another stupid question...being as the HQ of WPW is in Kentucky, why is it that their time zone is GMT - 4 hours? Like wouldn't that put it in the middle of the Atlantic somewhere?

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Originally Posted by mikmik

All kidding aside, maybe, what hours do people here generally keep? I am unencumbered by family or office responsibilities, so I pretty much come and go at random. I should really try to maintain a regular sleep/eat cycle, it is healthier, after all, but lately I'm up - whenever.
How unusual is that? How do others organize their time?

I organize my time by seconds, then minutes, then hours.

I start my day off with breakfast, and I am usually still hungry so I have SECONDS.

Then MINUTES before I plan on going to bed, I usually check into WPW to get in the last word.

Due to the fact that MikMik is usually logged into WPW by this time, and he has two more hours to work with due to the time zone difference...I usually have my day organized to spend lots more HOURS in this endeavor.

So, I never really go to bed. By the time the A.M. rolls around and it is time for breakfast, I start all over with SECONDS again.

Leisa · #3 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 02:04 AM

Well, since you asked...
If I had it my way I'd stay up all night and sleep all day BUT I don't. I teach computer and Internet classes three days a week and have to get up at 5:00am on those day so that messes me up quite a bit. Otherwise, this girl is a night owl.

And about your question of mixed/random hours, I'm the same and it makes me crazy but, hey, I do it to myself. Some nights I'm up til 5am, others, I'm just getting up then. So, rest assured, you aren't the only one!

minstrel · #4 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 02:10 AM

I spent a lot of years working for other people and having to get up to suit their schedules - now, I'm self-employed and more-or-less get to set my own hours. I've been a night person all my life and now I finally (most days) no longer have to pretend I'm not... it's well worth the extra stress and lack of sick pay.

labrynth_of_fire · #5 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 02:21 AM

hmmm...its about 1:30 AM here...Ill go to bed later, i usually sneak in and view a thread or two throughout the day :)

mikmik · #6 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 02:29 AM

ronniethedodger asked:

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I have another stupid question...being as the HQ of WPW is in Kentucky, why is it that their time zone is GMT - 4 hours? Like wouldn't that put it in the middle of the Atlantic somewhere?

I was wondering that myself. Just outside of territorial waters, I make it. Hmmm!

But now my turn to be ES ( el stupido), I'm not PHP wise enough, but amybe changing it to something else like GMT +/- 0 hr or EST means having to rewrite up to 8 characters of code - all at once?!

Am I sadly mistaken? I just got up!
My circadian rythm(what the heck?)rythym?rythimrythem??
is about 6 hrs long some days - nap, coffee, WPW,nap, etc.

lof wrote

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hmmm...its about 1:30 AM here...Ill go to bed later, i usually sneak in and view a thread or two throughout the day :)

That puts you about due north or south of kentucky? lol
02:00 o'clock in Newfoundland

Leisa · #7 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikmik

But now my turn to be ES ( el stupido), I'm not PHP wise enough, but amybe changing it to something else like GMT +/- 0 hr or EST means having to rewrite up to 8 characters of code - all at once?!

Going on the assumption that your comment made sense in your head -insert smile- I'll tell ya what I know about the BB they use as it "comes out of the box". Of course they can mod any ole thing they want to but in the default admin control panel they have a ton of options for time zones. One of which is GMT +/- 0. I've no clue if this is what you were after but, hey, it's on the table.

ronniethedodger · #8 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Leisa

I've no clue if this is what you were after but, hey, it's on the table.

Neither does anyone else, maybe because by the time he gets to the end of his passages he is usually under the table....that is where I usually lose track of what he is saying. ;0)

mikmik · #9 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 03:59 AM

Leisa, ronniethedodger, and many others previous wrotestuff like:

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Going on the assumption that your comment made sense in your head -insert smile- I'll

and

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Neither does anyone else, maybe because by the time he gets to the end of his passages he is usually under the table....that is where I usually lose track of what he is saying. ;0)

and

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I've no clue if this is what you were after

yes, me neither, and absolutely!

I have a bad habit of combining way to many 'thoughts' and emotions all together and then trying to express them as a single idea.
I will also get sidetracked in the middle of a sentence, as I am typing it, and try to incorporate that stuff also.

So by the time I get finished a sentence or two, I usually don't even know what I wanted to say when I began.

To top it all off, I will post the results without evenproof-reading.
But I must admit that you folks are amazingly accurate at 'decyphering' my work, so I take it for granted that what I am saying makes sense.

I made an grave mistake of trying to understand Bertrand Russel's essays, by myself, without the assistance of several quarts of 'High test' eggnog (made with 150 overproof Jamaican Rum, mon), and have since been rendered in a 'grammatically shattered' state of language comprehension.

I dare you to read "A Free Man's Worship" and still be standing, no matter what time it is on the WPW clock. (See? I have no problem 'suddenly' associating these two ideas, unrelated but for their proximity to this thread)

I also have to admit that as I'm typing, I'm heavily thinking of Monty Python - ism's that only make sense if you see the dialogue acted out, which I can, but you (fortunately? lol) cannot!

I also spent many a 'wasted day' trying out various self-administered combinations of medication during the 60's throught to the 80's and beyond, but I don't consider this a major contributing factor as the damage was already present from inadvertantly donating my brain to research when I was old enough, only to be told that it would be better to wait until after I was dead so I had to put in back in but took my time and it went several days out of the fridge without being watered and it also fell on the floor and the dog flashed out of nowhere and took it.
I had a hell of a time unburying it.

So, a setting in the control panel?
Whew, I get tired just thinking about it!

ronniethedodger · #10 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 04:40 AM

Man I feel for you dude! Right on...it brought tears to my weary late-night eyes.

But I put it to you that the reason that your brain is pickled is not from the cured egg-nog or the 150 proof distilled rum or the post-60's flashbacks or any of that foul disgusting stuff that we all occasionly experimented with during our passionate youth. My gawd man, it was the Bertrand Russell essays mate!

mikmik · #11 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 04:50 AM

ronniethedodger wrote

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My gawd man, it was the Bertrand Russell essays mate!

You got that right! I should have just stuck to "Coles Notes"

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Such, in outline, but even more purposeless, more void of meaning, is the world which Science presents for our belief. Amid such a world, if anywhere, our ideals henceforward must find a home. That Man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; that all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the whole temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins--all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain, that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand. Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely built.

Here it is in entirety : http://www.luminary.us/russell/freeman.html

I now know that people just pretend to understand this stuff! :o)

ronniethedodger · #12 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 04:54 AM

It is 4:48 GMT -4 hours right now. And this guy is going to bed.

It is now 4:50 GMT -4 hours and I am still on my way to bed.

It is now 4:53 GMT -4 hours and after previewing and proofin my post and thus approving it for publication...I am now officially on my way to bed.

It is now 4:54 GMT -4 hours and after viewing my post after publication I noticed a spelling mistake and corrected it...I am still on my way to bed (eventually...now I am on my way to the Water Closet first)

ronniethedodger · #13 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 04:58 AM

It is now 4:58 GMT -4 hours and upon noticing a new post in my most favorite thread regarding:

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Originally Posted by mikmik

Here it is in entirety : http://www.luminary.us/russell/freeman.html

I have therefore decided that I am still going to bed...some things are not worth staying up for no matter how intellectually stimulating they may be.

mikmik · #14 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 06:32 AM

ronniethedodger =

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I have therefore decided that I am still going to bed...some things are not worth staying up for no matter how intellectually stimulating they may be.

But that's what it's for! It puts you out!!

lol Goodnight all.

You to, Leisa
:o)My friend.

#15 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertrand Russel, in his last essay '1967'

Something perhaps, but sadly little in view of the magnitude of the evil. Some few people in England and the U.S, I have encouraged in the expression of liberal views, or have terrified with the knowledge of what modern weapons can do. It is not much, but if everybody did as much this Earth would soon be a paradise. Consider for a moment what our planet is and what it might be. At present, for most, there is toil and hunger, constant danger, more hatred than love. There could be a happy world, where co-operation was more in evidence than competition, and monotonous work is done by machines, where what is lovely in nature is not destroyed to make room for hideous machines whose sole business is to kill, and where to promote joy is more respected than to produce mountains of corpses. Do not say this is impossible: it is not. It waits only for men to desire it more than the infliction of torture.

There is an artist imprisoned in each one of us. Let him loose to spread joy everywhere.

i'm a little lost dog in terms of what is going on in this thread; first i'm voting on what i have for breakfast then someone hits me over the head w/ a little Betrand!? oh my, i feel like i'm back in college.

anyway this quote above is literally from his last writing, an essay '1967' that he wrote when he was 95.

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Originally Posted by Bertrand Russel, in his last essay '1967'

There is an artist imprisoned in each one of us. Let him loose to spread joy everywhere.

i think this was the (very misunderstood) call to arms for a young
David Blaine

Oh yeah what hours do i keep? i guess i'm part of the self-employed club>>
i vowed to myself when i left Starbucks [and the mall, and all the other supid jobs i've held throughout my life] to never ever punch a time-clock for the rest of my life and i have always been one to keep promises.

even though it took me 33 years i love being my own boss and having my own office in my own home; sometimes i stay up for two days w/ out sleeping if i'm really excited about a design i'm working on......then i can shut the cell phone off & sleep for 24 hours if needed....this is something i am truly grateful for. i am a night owl too so this is very conducive for everything.

and i quit smoking two years ago (i used to smoke two packs of Camel UNFILITERED a day) cold turkey....no small feat let me tell you......

so my breakfast of champions is just coffee now......but since zana still works part time at Starbucks (we both still have awesome health insurance from Starbucks...medical, dental & life insurance) i truly have a great selection of fresh coffee beans to choose from each moring and i don't have to go to town and stand on line to wait for a cappucino.....we have all that stuff here in our home.....;-}

DAREN

ronniethedodger · #16 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 05:16 PM

I think we can all assume that Daren has "Too, too, too much time on (his) hands" and was up way past his bedtime judging by the double post. ;0)

#17 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ronniethedodger

I think we can all assume that Daren has "Too, too, too much time on (his) hands" and was up way past his bedtime judging by the double post. ;0)

ha ha looks like you have the same ghost in your machine ;-}

DAREN

ronniethedodger · #18 (**permalink**) 12-27-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by daren

ha ha looks like you have the same ghost in your machine ;-}

Strange that you should mention that! hehehe

When I turn my monitor off, crawl into bed,
and flick off the lamp....this 17" (diagonal)
rectangular image always appears on the ceiling.
Then the image gets more and more clearer, and
before I know it there it is...MikMik's face on
my ceiling. Man...I wish that dude would go to
bed before I do! ;0)

ronniethedodger · #19 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 03:37 AM

It is starting to become a usual practice of winding up here and making this topic my last post of the evening.

So I sit here thinking of something witty to say while staring at my monitor....and nothing comes to mind. Not because I am tired and worn out from the days events. Heck I can probably just write something really stupid, and who would know the difference.

No...I am staring at the monitor looking at Daren's post right above mine...and something is wrong with it. Something is not quite right. It is eating at me, and if I do not figure it out...I will be up all night long working on it.

Then it hits me. Take a look at these two graphics.

Has anybody noticed that his Avatar and Site Logo are out of sync?

mikmik · #20 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 06:09 AM

ronniethedodger , budding investigative journalist reports:

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Has anybody noticed that his Avatar and Site Logo are out of sync?

No, not really. Are you sure that your monitor is hooked up properly?

Here, have a look at mine:

:O)

#21 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ronniethedodger

Has anybody noticed that his Avatar and Site Logo are out of sync?

lol

but i was kicked out of N sync when i turned 18

DAREN ;-}

mikmik · #22 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 11:51 AM

Daren wrote:

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but i was kicked out of N sync when i turned 18

Maybe not the best thing for financial success, but that was when the world gained respect for you. lol

Seriously, I have wanted to compliment you on the very effective use of timing in your animations. I find the effects to be strangely compelling and relaxing! IMHO

#23 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikmik

I find the effects to be strangely compelling and relaxing!

"hey Dr. Leary....... you can't keep bringing up LSD in this forum man....!!!!" ;-}\\\\\\<

DAREN

#24 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikmik

Daren wrote:

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but i was kicked out of N sync when i turned 18

Maybe not the best thing for financial success, but that was when the world gained respect for you. lol

Seriously, I have wanted to compliment you on the very effective use of timing in your animations. I find the effects to be strangely compelling and relaxing! IMHO

lol ok seriously >me be serious now>>> ahhemmmnnn....

thanx.
if you wish to know any wonderful lore behind the red graphic: the deep, symbolic meaning that unlocks the secrets of this conundrumical universe...well my favorite math subject was geometry (NOT what the newborn baby tree said)

and if you look you close you will see that the square is the house on the mountain looking over the sea at foot of valley [the red triangle is the sea] and the circle/sphere is the sun or moon depending on what time it is lol....the three basic shapes in nature + the parallelgram thingee to show "some lives are like parallel lines....they will always be traveling together but never meet" and other lines bisect other lines and shapes into shape sub-divisions that stand for all the little sub-division gated communites that acne the flat and brutally unforgiving Florida landscape. i chose the color red not only because it is the color of the lifegiving blood that courses through our collective, passionate humanity but also because i really like lobster and radishes.

DAREN ;-}

minstrel · #25 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by daren

"hey Dr. Leary....... you can't keep bringing up LSD in this forum man....!!!!"

I can no longer find it but I used to have a copy of a serious (sic) article by Leary published in one of the psychology journals, in which he was arguing for research that would legitimize a new personality test based on the zodiac/astrology. This, I should add, was in his pre-LSD days. I always saw that as evidence that the obvious strangeness in the man in his later days wasn't entirely attributable to all the drugs he consumed.

ronniethedodger · #26 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by minstrel

This, I should add, was in his pre-LSD days. I always saw that as evidence that the obvious strangeness in the man in his later days wasn't entirely attributable to all the drugs he consumed.

A lot of young men exhibited this type of behaviour before finding the Mormon Religion. They often would go out and get basted on a Friday night...well they got basted every day for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Daren the Euclidean

if you wish to know any wonderful lore behind the red graphic: the deep, symbolic meaning that unlocks the secrets of this conundrumical universe...well my favorite math subject was geometry (NOT what the newborn baby tree said)

I don't know...but I see a WalMart with an aisle so long that you can see the curvature of the earth in it. The three lines with the perspective view suggest this.

I could be wrong about that, because that could be a representation of a two-lane highway. In which case I see that all roads lead to Wal-mart...and the sun/moon thingy in the sky suggests that this WalMart is open 24 hours a day.

If that is indeed a two-lane highway, then it also is a highway that circumvents the globe too. For the upside-down triangle is not upside-down at all and it is not the ocean either. It is one of the pyramids in Egypt where a new WalMart is being built....possibly inside the pyramid itself.

#27 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ronniethedodger

I don't know...but I see a WalMart with an aisle so long that you can see the curvature of the earth in it. The three lines with the perspective view suggest this.

I could be wrong about that, because that could be a representation of a two-lane highway. In which case I see that all roads lead to Wal-mart...and the sun/moon thingy in the sky suggests that this WalMart is open 24 hours a day.

If that is indeed a two-lane highway, then it also is a highway that circumvents the globe too. For the upside-down triangle is not upside-down at all and it is not the ocean either. It is one of the pyramids in Egypt where a new WalMart is being built....possibly inside the pyramid itself.

that's really funny man we could build this out for 5 minutes and have a skit for MAD TV or SNL (and man do they need good writing)
"the two self -inflicted art critics"

hey you gave me a funny idea i should have posted this as its own thread
"What does daren's Red Geometrobe mean?"

......because yes it very well could be a modern day retelling of the three little pigs (los cerdos). the three lines represent the pigs and the shapes, their houses....>> the wolf (el lobo) blows down two houses (casas) because one is made of ice (the triangle)...and melts into the sea. the circular one is made of an old, used weather balloon and the wolf blows it high into the atmosphere where two USAF F-15's shoot it down as a possible hostile UFO.........the third house, the red box on the mountain, is made of solid lead: one huge cube of inpenetrable solid lead. the wolf is triumphed this time, as he can't blow the house down of course, and collapses out of breath trying in vain....

but in THIS story since the third house is made of a cube of lead...the pig himself can't even get into it as it is one solid mass....and the wolf, upon catching his breath, sees the pig hiding behind the cube and dashes towards him and grabs him in his jaws and eats him in one big gulp.

DAREN ;-}

ronniethedodger · #28 (**permalink**) 12-28-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by daren

hey you gave me a funny idea i should have posted this as its own thread
"What does daren's Red Geometrobe mean?"

...or at the least....move this part of it into the "What, I have to think?" topic.

We could entitle it "Dar(w)en Cubism Theory & Applied Geometrobics for Dummies".
It would definitely be a real brain-basting topic for sure. ;0)

vfaulkner · #29 (**permalink**) 12-30-2003, 04:38 PM

First off, I have coffee in the morning. as previously mentioned, I have too much blood in my caffeine system! However, I do not smoke nor have I ever.

As an insomniac, I do not sleep any regular hours.
usually, I can be found at any given time...
(right now means Tues, 12/30, at 3:41pm Eastern)

ronniethedodger · #30 (**permalink**) 12-30-2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vfaulkner

First off, I have coffee in the morning. as previously mentioned, I have too much blood in my caffeine system!

giggle...I like that one! ;0)

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Originally Posted by vfaulkner

As an insomniac, I do not sleep any regular hours.
usually, I can be found at any given time...
(right now means Tues, 12/30, at 3:41pm Eastern)

So like...what time is that exactly? Like if you
do not tell me in GMT -4 hours equivalent...like
how am I supposed to know what time you are talking
about? Are we talking really late at night or what?

Maybe that is why you are an insomniac...I bet you
don't know what time it is either. Or you live very
close to the Artic Circle and it is either dark all
the time, or it is light all the time. I bet you do not
even have a clock do you? Probably just a stick in
the ground with all these numbers around it, when the
shadow hits it...then you know it is after sun-up and
before sun-down.

I looked at my stick just now. No shadow. In fact I
cannot see the stupid stick. It is too dark outside
to see that stupid stick. I have been awake for going
on seven days now....and I still cannot see that stupid stick.

If there is anybody out there that is awake on this
planet...even if you are awake and from another planet
Can you please look outside at your stupid sticks, and
tell me what time it is.....please.

mikmik · #31 (**permalink**) 12-31-2003, 12:38 AM

I don't know, this is even to stupid for me to say but I might as well enjoy my second childhood/mid life catastrophe while I can cause I'll probably get some sleep any day now also.

10 days I've heard, then THE BIG LONG NAP!
How can you die from no sleep?? Maybe you get to hallucination so bad that you ... I don't know.
But I know that it is time for you to get a watch. Okay, thats it I'm deleteing this post! If you are reading this , please move along ( Sheese, even one night without lol)

vfaulkner · #32 (**permalink**) 12-31-2003, 08:45 AM

Sorry Ronnie,
Eastern US(winter)time is GMT-05:00
time here now 07:46 am, Dec 31,2003
:-)

ronniethedodger · #33 (**permalink**) 12-31-2003, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vfaulkner

Sorry Ronnie,
Eastern US(winter)time is GMT-05:00
time here now 07:46 am, Dec 31,2003
:-)

Thank you Vicki! I moved my stick
about 2" east...and it is in sync now! ;0)

mikmik · #34 (**permalink**) 01-01-2004, 12:47 AM

I am very interested in this new technology you speak of. What do you say, ...stik?

We have to build these monstrous contraptions out of large blocks of the heaviest material we can find, huge rocks - even if we trudge for dozens of moons to get them and haul them back, and sometimes it takes generations to get them syncronyzed just right.

They are very accurate though. For instance, I can tell the exact time right now, and even the date!!

Let's see, it.... is.... exactly...Night! On the one of many days of winter!

ronniethedodger · #35 (**permalink**) 01-01-2004, 01:43 AM

I use a stick. When I move to another
location...I take my stick with me.

If I get cold during the move, I light
my stick on fire and put it back in the
ground again. But then my time gets
all out of whack....cuz the stick
shadow is all over the place.

When the stick burns all the way down...
well, then I am out of time. And when
I am out of time, then I know it is time
to go get another stick.

Sticks are better than rocks. Rocks don't
burn, they certainly don't stick, and they
will roll away from you. They are light,
they can light, and give you light. Rocks
just sit there and do nothing.

minstrel · #36 (**permalink**) 01-01-2004, 02:06 AM

I don't really like either of them...

"sticks and stones can break my bones..."

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