I feel I need to get things off my chest.

The problem I find writing on forums is coming across people who feel the need to comment on thing they often know nothing about. This can often be followed up by a creepy person agreeing. I'm not against people giving their views on subjects they know nothing about, I do it all the time, but I don't write that I definately know the answer and that others are wrong, especially on a subject I have not made some effort to look into.

I can give a great example, away from writing on forums, but on general comments made by people.
I used to go on holiday, or vacation for Americans, to Las Vegas on a regular basis. Not surprisingly I would get some stick for going to the same destination, which I can understand. But what I could never understand were the people who would tell me it's not such a great place to visit, despite the fact they had never been there. I even had one so called friend who told me I shouldn't go there because his brother said it wasn't worth going. I asked whether his brother had gone there before, or had read or seen anything on Vegas, but the answer was no.

Does this person have any grounds to tell me he knows more about where I should go, and that I am wrong to go there when he knows absolutely nothing about the place?

My poor attempt at explaining what I mean, is to say, why don't people stick to subjects they have some knowledge on, and if they choose to make comments on something they know nothing about, don't suggest that they are right and that others who probably do know what they are talking about, are wrong.

I'm sure I will get the knife from anyone who responds to this post, but I will be expecting it. This is not about me being right and others being wrong, but simply to ask how some have the nerve to think they are an authority on absolutely everything?

End of rant.

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I post in subjects I know sod all about, but I do it to learn. I don't think there are many 'experts on everything' here, but if you know of them, pm me, I'd love to know who they are!

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.... i love vegas.

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Just got back from Vegas on a delayed honeymoon. We had a blast.

I like to act like I know more than I do. It's the American way.

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I presume you are refering to this thread:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=43458
where you claimed I was wrong and Janeth supported my position, so you resorted to posts like:
You really need to go and read the forum rules.

To settle the disagreement I have posted a poll here:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=43649

CBP

PS re your last quote, about no one supporting my position. You need to read that thread again. Several posts are. No one is supporting your position.

Agreed! but seriously I love to read about topics of various interest because simply I learn more about every tidbit that this wonderful world has to offer. Not to mention it makes a good conversation piece whenever I go on a date :) So yeah it's all good I learn more about useful/useless stuff and I impress the girl. Can't get a much better deal than that.

CBP in the Breakroom, now I have seen it all! I am going to go and have a lie down.

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I am sure I have been here once before .... I keep forgetting its here :-)

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tomzo, I'm not going to debate your rant in itself, since as a standalone argument it makes sense.

However, since the rant is clearly directed at two individuals and your thinly-veiled perception of the events is nowhere close to the truth, I feel the need to interject some points.

You have a total of 40 posts on this board to date (one of which is this very rant). cbp has over 4000, and is a mod. janeth has over 3500, and if I recall correctly is a former mod.

Now, I don't have 3000 posts to my name, but you don't get to that number unless you're contributing a LOT of useful stuff. If the two individuals in question were contributing in a negative or even a non-helpful manner, then neither of them would be a mod and chances are that someone long before you would have exposed them as the frauds you think they are and either banned them or left them to find another board, since their credibility would have been long destroyed.

These are the people who make "points" that are thin in logic and thick on emotion and who usually find themselves standing alone. (There's nothing wrong with the latter as long as you can back it up...but without the logic, that just doesn't happen.)

I'm not saying I would agree with everything cbp and janeth say based on their post count and/or longevity, but I will certainly give any argument they have a lot more thought and consideration than I would yours.

In other words, you can disagree with whomever you want; that's your right. Just remember that without anything to back your opinion up, sometimes it's better to exercise your right to remain silent.

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why?

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how do you know posting has to be useful?

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why do you give more weight to some one arguement because of the number of their posting?

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Do you also always listen to the loudest mouth in the room first?

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wow, I just added 5 posting to my post number without saying jack.

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And think that I could have just said verything in one. This is 6th.

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gworld, you did not add ONE, let alone 6 -
posts in this part of the forum do not count, sorry nice try.

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hahahaha, sorry for laughing gworld but it is funny! cbp and AdamWebDesign, you really should just let him have his rant, you have won the debate in their other forum, stop pursuing him. If he wants be bitter react by being sweet ;)

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It was to demonstrate the principal,not to actually increase the number. I have been succesful in my life , so I do not need to define myself by having a large number of posting.

The meaning of the posting, if it was not clear before is: You can post this type of 1 line crap in any section and just a high number of posting doesn't mean that you are right.

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You are still missing the point, so I give you another example, if you look at cbp profile, he has posted 8 posting/day and has about 4250 posting.

adbart who has joined 6 days ago, has on average posted 40/day and has about 250 posting.

The differnce between the number of posting between 2 is 4250-250=4000. The difference between their average daily posting is 40-8=32

Now if you take and didviad 4000/32=125 days. This means that in little over 4 months adbart will be more credibile and we should give more weight to his arguements than cbp.

This is not a critic of adbart, since while I can disagree with many of his 1 liners or even idealogy, I haven't seen anything dishonest from him which is much more that I can say about some of the other members.

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I'm flattered, gworld.

I don't think this is really a major issue - you should evaluate any argument separately, and even if someone has only posted, say 4 posts, it doesn't mean their opinions are valueless.

I suppose you can excercise some caution though.

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Wow..adbart made a friend.

I'm not necessarily devaluing tomzo's opinion based solely on the number of posts. I'm merely saying that if tomzo is a newcomer and cbp and janeth are established posters and the two disagree, the number of posts and hte overall quality of them will be two factors I use to formulate my own opinion.

To clarify, they're not the only two factors. But they are two factors nonetheless.

gworld, you're right in the sense that a post count can temporarily be artificially inflated by posting random idiotic one-liners, depending on how the forum is configured. But, in the case of a forum such as WPW that is moderated and moderated well, a poster who does what you've done continuously will eventually find him/herself on the outside looking in.

jkomp: I'm gonna keep thse two going. The more illogical their reactions are, the funnier it is to me. (It's a character flaw.)

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It is nothing unusual about that. 2 person can disagree about a subject but still be friend.

I strongly disagree with adbart idealogy but so far he has not been an a*s kisser or dishonest and I respect him for that.

We can discuss his opinions and in time may be he will change it or I will learn something new from him but people with serious character flaws are another story.

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I don't like your tone. I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at, but if you are being hilariously obnoxious then perhaps you should reconsider the way you approach people and you might get a better response in future.

Do put me straight if I'm wrong and you actually mean that in a good-hearted way (I'd love to hear your logic).

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adbart: I meant absolutely NO disrespect toward you whatsoever, and I apologize if you took it in this manner. What I was saying is that gworld had chosen to criticize your posting style.

Although your posts are concise, that's not necessarily a bad thing if you can get your point across (and you do so rather well.)

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Okay, I accept your apology - the way you said that sounded a little, for want of a better word, 'abrasive'.

I think I'm going to leave this thread alone now, its causing all sorts of tensions....

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