I just had a long, wonderful, discussion with a friend about Happily Ever After...

Does it exist?
And What is Happily Ever After to you?

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The only person who lives happily ever after in my life is my lawyer, due the amount of women I neglected to pay attention to.

Happily Ever After is getting timely and meaningful responses to my post in this forum.

Happily ever after
Is a oxymoron in itself in my option

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Why?...I'm not talking about castles and riches...
I'm asking...what would make you truely happy.

What is the 'good life'?

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castles and riches

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Happily ever after...

Hmmm, If you could find contentment in any circumstance. You know find the silver lining to the dark cloud. If you could find something good from things that don't seem to be so good. If you could take the most impossible and see the possibilities.


Could it be as simple as your state of mind?

Can you just refuse the bad, you know spin it, so that it works for you instead of against you.


Let's use php~pro as our guinny,

He say's...
The only person who lives happily ever after in my life is my lawyer, due the amount of women I neglected to pay attention to.

Yes, they are happy (so they seem)... He can feel good about making someone else happy!

Could he see what his money has gotton for him, instead of focusing on the fact his money is gone. He now has freedom... he has paid dearly for it shouldn't he at least enjoy it and focus on the possibilities of freedom, I mean since he doesn't have to give his attention to those in the past anymore.

He probably learned somethings too, he is smarter now, that is a good thing.

Is he smiling yet?

Well, sometimes it just takes a little time to wade through the mess before finding anything worth holding on to.


Now GHG,

You are the king of your castle, and if you say that your castle is magnificant, then who can argue with you? And I happen to know you have an endless supply of noe bucks, you can count them and play with them, sleep with them, share them... now that is rich!

I already spent time in a ward for playing with my neobucks (not doing that again)
You have a wonderful viewpoint but not one I can live by if I had to eat Kraft dinner every night I could not lie to myself and say I am happy.
Everyone can have a positive state of mind but it is through our torment that we enjoy our pleasure and lack of a frontal lobotomies I cannot ignore my torment.
But the harder the venture the sweeter the prize.
I will not get into personal examples but life is hard I feel it is equally hard on everyone to themselves. You see people with worse problems but are your problems to yourself any different in value to their problems to themselves just different problems for different people.

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It is only torment if you feel sorry for yourself.
Once you realize that life is the most amazing gift of all, even difficulties are signs that you are alive, and reason for gratitude.
It is purely a state of mind. We are responsible for our own perceptions, and once you become responsible, you stop being a victim and are able to see the power you weild over every situation - your attitude.
Your problems are only as bad as you make them. If you see difficulty as an opportunity for growth, and a challenge that brings purpose to your life and rich rewards for facing, that is happily ever after, for you no longer let your fears encumber you.

PS. It is funny, GHG, I was just thinking about how poor I am that Kraft dinner is a luxury I cannot afford right now, but I richer than I have ever been and growing richer every day.
I have a computer, a goal I am working towards, and more interesting and intelligent conversation in my life than I ever thought possible.
Ever single bit of my life is a gift of priceless worth.

It is wanting what you have, not having everything you want that makes you happy. It is an appreciation not by comparison with angst, but just because.

If you are alive, and have only bread and water and what you can get from the food bank (bread LOL) to eat, it means that you then can experience the riches of choice that life brings, riches beyong count, choices beyong desire, for every moment, every second of life gives me a choice to be happy or sad. Every i nstant is another opportunity to do things of my choosing, and is on the path to my future, which I shape by my choices, both actions and attitudes.

Oh, Dear Globalho,

Perhaps we would not know joy if we had not sorrow to compare it too. But all I am suggesting is that you do not have to let it steal your happiness. It prompts the happiness. But the happiness will not just say... HERE I AM... you have to find it! Or just complain, I prefer happy!


For instance, you say...
if I had to eat Kraft dinner every night I could not lie to myself and say I am happy.

Is it a lie, that at least you have macaroni and it has cheese (or at least it is yellow-orange)! Would it make any difference to not have anything? Go a few nights with out dinner, then that same old mac will look better, you might even be happy to see it. If you had nothing at least you wouldn't have anything to be unhappy about.? So, take what you have and make something of it!

As far as the problems of others, yes, it makes my problems seem easier to deal with when compared to those who have it even harder than me. Then I can count my blessings and see things in a different light with a different attitude, and before I know it, my problem isn't so bad, and with this new attitude I can even find some good in it. If I focus on negitive then that is what I see, If that is what I see, then that is how I will respond.


Happiness is a choice of mind. You choose how to let things effect you. If you can not find happiness here in this stuation, how can you find happiness in any. Some people who seem to have everything needed for happines still have none because they look for happiness in the wrong place. They look for it as a certain situation or circumstance but the truth is that it is a state of mind, our circumstances are presented to us, what we think about it determines the value of it.

Some situations are just a little harder than others.

You say,
But the harder the venture the sweeter the prize.

Yes, so when things seem tough look hard for that prize, it is there but you have to recognize it.

I remember going camping in a beautiful place when I was young, but I also remember the rough, God forsaken trail we had to endure to get there! It was the only way to get to that spot... But it was worth it!

GHG,

I might be slow but I'll get there!

Yes, I validate your opinion...

Happily ever after
Is a oxymoron in itself in my option

Because as we demonstrated, it is the contrast of sad and happy, that make either noticable.

you can't see the light on light, or the dark on dark. ( that would be 'hidden text' )

So, how do you even know happy unless you know sad.

Happily ever after... no more sad... that would be heaven.

Happily ever after isn't a goal or a destination. If you spend to long looking ahead to where you're going you'll miss where you've been and where you are. Happy is a choice we make. Happy ever after is the journey you take once you've made the choice.

It's alot like problems. If you focus to long on the problem you fail to see the solution. I see the solution and welcome the problems. How else can my life have a story to tell if I don't have a few bumps/scars to show at the end? I don't believe in happily ever after. It's a delusion we created based on hearing to many fairy tales as children. What I do believe in though is living happiness everyday.

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The sky or universe as seen from the earth.

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An eternal state of communion with God; everlasting bliss.

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To me Happily Ever After is having someone to share that journey with...
someone who gets their joy from seeing you smile...
someone who's smile ignites a spark in you.

Appreciating the beauty of a mountain, or a flower, or a waterfall...or whatever...alone is important. But sharing...truely sharing...that joy with someone else...that is Happily Ever After.

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