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Old 05-03-2004, 03:33 PM
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Ok, this is a question I have never seen posed before here, so please forgive me if it has.

How the @#$% do you spell web site?

Some people spell it as one word, others spell it as two words and another group of people use them interchangeably.

What's the correct way?
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The word "website" does not exist as a valid word. To be grammatically correct, it should be two words, "web site"; "web page", etc.

This comes from several high level copy editors and is not just my opinion. Hope it helps.

Now for SEO purposes, many people do use "website" in search terms, so using it in keywords and descriptions would be suitable for optimizing.
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I sometimes use the word "website" knowing full well that pedantic editor types will frown and wag their fingers. But I think it should be a word and one day will be a word over the objections of the eggheaded academics.

Well, some people rebel with piercings and tattoos, at least my neologisms won't get infected. :)

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Hi there,
I wondered recently about this myself and found this rather authoritative source from the The American Heritage(R) dictionary of the English Language and others.

They say both are correct as they are both used.

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They say both are correct as they are both used.

K<o>
I use both too.
I found many times both the solutions used and I
never felt I found a mistake on the text.

Site is of course a word existing before the internet,
and web is also a word itself.

Web site means clearly a site on the web and using the
new word website has become normal, but is not a rule.
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---------Conficio wrote:------------

I wondered recently about this myself and found this rather authoritative source from the 'The American Heritage(R) dictionary of the English Language' and others.
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Is not 'The American ............ dictionary of the English Language' a contradiction in terms :-)

To be serious for a moment, I think that as this is an international forum we should use the international subset of English as used in Continental Europe and other places where English is common as a second language. This would avoid confusion and misunderstandings.

I realise this will be hard for us Brits as we often don't realise we have used a word that is outside the International vocabulary.

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The Canadian Press (CP) Stylebook says it should be:

"Web site"

Note the capital W.

Bascially the CP Stylebook is a guideline for Canadian press, including newspapers, magazines.. basically anything that involves print media.

I know there is an American equivalent (AP Stylebook comes to mind).. you may want to check that if you're so inclined. I suspect it will also be "Web site"

Considering its global scope, I'm kind of surprised there isn't a Web Stylebook.
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http://www.library.wisc.edu/librarie...stylebook.html

This is the University of Wisconsin-Madison Libraries Web Stylebook. It has the basics and also suggests "Web site."
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Usage rules, check my website.

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I think that as this is an international forum we should use the international subset of English as used in Continental Europe...
I think not. I speak as I will, deal with it or ignore me (many try, this doesn't bother me).

Though the thing I admire most about the English Language is the arrogant way it insinuates itself everywhere and will appropriate anything from anywhere. Probably a trait left-over from the days when the sun never set on the former Empire.

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andilinks, this
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Well, some people rebel with piercings and tattoos, at least my neologisms won't get infected. :)
Plus your above post = ...
LMFAO!

It is the use of the word which defines it, you are right, and I have said this before, If something like this is a concern to a potential customer...
I don't want them ... Yikes!
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Default The answer is...

Web Site is correct.

In recent years due to the volume of people adopting website as a single term, website is becoming a word.

I just wish I could remember where I read this??? There was a handful of 'new' words that have developed out of the Net that it discussed. Web Site was one (I prefer two words), e-mail (correct) vs new term email was another, e-commerce ecommerce was in there too I believe...

So basically website is NOT a word however it looks like it is going to be a word in future.

Hope that helps,
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try this:

http://www.wordspy.com/WAW/Hale-Constance.asp

From Constance Hale's entry on this website:

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English [is] a robust, swarthy tongue, capable of surviving tumult and thriving on innovation.
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Default What does Google think is right?

Merriam-Webster online says web site is correct.

Overture search term result for web site
Searches done in April 2004
Count Search Term
512456 web site

Overture search term result for website
Searches done in April 2004
Count Search Term
512456 web site

Note that in the second results, website is
rendered web site.

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Google search on web site results in the question:
Did you mean: website

Google search on website simply gives the results
of the search.

I decided to be a rebel and use web site anyway.
Why? Well, I read that you should optimize for less popular terms because it was impossible to compete
for the most popular terms [deliberate sarcasm].

What!!!???? [deliberate sarcasm] is not a forum tag?

What!!!???? Google thinks website is the correct one [deliberate sarcasm]?

Let's hear from Google on this!
We demand Marissa Mayer, the Director of Consumer Web Products at Google :)

We want Marissa! We want Marissa! Hmmmm mayble I've
been watching the OC too much.
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And thank you Mike, for your appreciation of my humor. :)

Laughter is my favorite music.

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Google search on web site results in the question:
Did you mean: website
I rest my case.
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We went with website because it gets more searches.

We where ranked in the top 20 for both
"website design" and "web site design" website design won hands down.

Yes I know we droped to the 30's this week but that is another story
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Quote:
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Google search on web site results in the question:
Did you mean: website
I rest my case.
I second that! A words spelling has historically been determined by the most common spelling of the word. In the case of website, people most commonly search for it as one word.
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Google define

Website
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...define:Website

web site
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

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As there is no "official" Academy of the English Language, we will have to rely on the French.

L’Académie française: "site du internet". See http://www.academie-francaise.fr.

Please note that you don't have to worry about: email versus e-mail as the Académie has declared it to be a new word: "courriel".

See how much simpler it is when you have a standards organization? And, given that «L'Académie française fut fondée en 1635 par le cardinal de Richelieu.», you had better pay attention as you know what the "good" cardinal did to people who disagreed with him. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu

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Re the original post, can I ask what "@#$%" means?
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can I ask what "@#$%" means?
My best guess would be that it is a euphemism for an ancient Anglo-Saxon word for copulation, wisely prohibited here by the TOS.

I could be wrong however, only cooper knows for sure. Some TOS prohibit even veiled references. It could be cooper had a milder epithet in mind, perhaps the firey afterlife reserved for people who swear about Cardinal Richelieu.

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...we will have to rely on the French.
Now THAT's a good one, rotfl...

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Re the original post, can I ask what "@#$%" means?
You may ask, but I think it might be better to respond off-forum as this is a PG-13 rated web site. ;o)
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can I ask what "@#$%" means?
My best guess would be that it is a euphemism for an ancient Anglo-Saxon word for copulation, wisely prohibited here by the TOS.

I could be wrong however, only cooper knows for sure. Some TOS prohibit even veiled references. It could be cooper had a milder epithet in mind, perhaps the firey afterlife reserved for people who swear about Cardinal Richelieu.
LOL! I love using the swearing characters (like in comics) as it leaves it up to the reader to replace them with whatever curse correlates best in her/his mind. :o)
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Funny, that, using the '$' symbol as representing an anglo word that is distatsteful to the general populace

yet '$' , the love of it, .....Well!

What could be worse than the root of all evil?

"@#$%"

Love?

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Funny, that, using the '$' symbol as representing an anglo word that is distatsteful to the general populace

yet '$' , the love of it, .....Well!

What could be worse than the root of all evil?

"@#$%"

Love?

No, CSS.......
This is hilarious. I never thought the topic would diverge into my substitute characters. I literally just held the shift key down while typing 2345

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Google search on web site results in the question:
Did you mean: website
I rest my case.
I second that! A words spelling has historically been determined by the most common spelling of the word. In the case of website, people most commonly search for it as one word.
yes, there are always "new" words being added to the dictionary anyway based on popular use. with that said, i usually spell it web site.
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This is hilarious. I never thought the topic would diverge into my substitute characters. I literally just held the shift key down while typing 2345
So, now we know.... you actually meant to type 2345.
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This is hilarious. I never thought the topic would diverge into my substitute characters. I literally just held the shift key down while typing 2345
So, now we know.... you actually meant to type 2345.
Yes, but now I think I will type it with a space in the middle: 23 45
since that is the correct way to spell substitute profanity. ;oP
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