Senator Wexler along with several judiciary committee members are calling for the Impeachment of Dick Cheney for unspeakable crimes against our Constitution and all of humanity. The bill to impeach has 24 sponsors now in the Congress and Senate. His support in the House and Senate is growning. People are signing the petition by the thousands daily. Show you support what is right, too.

He has made the call to us to sign a petition to show the Judiciary and the rest of congress that the American people have had enough and support getting this criminal out of our Government and possibly into jail where he belongs.

This might be the most important petition you ever sign if you love your Constitution.

Join Wexler's Call for Cheney Hearings

This movement is now reaching mainstream news even against the gags that have been placed on our Corporate owned media stations. Please help spread the word. Wexler will be presenting this to Congress on the 15th.

It is extremely important to get this word to those who don't normally see or hear political news. Wexler is now accepting donations for mainstream media and google ads, too, - I have this Posted on my Self Reliance site - if you can spare a little bit of room on your site, please post an ad as well - feel free to copy this one:
IMPEACHMENT - JUST SAY YES

Stand with your Senate and Judiciary Committee

As they make the call for the Impeachment of Cheney.

Sign NOW! Show you care about America and it's Constitution.

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Is there a site to say no??

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It's not about voting for who you like - it's about getting someone out of office who has so flagrantly violated our laws
that our country is turning into a fascist state. It's about our leaders being criminals and being confused about themselves being world "rulers" instead of constitutional "leaders". It's about stopping our own citizens from being put into concentration camps just for exercising their rights to disagree with unconstitutional laws. It's about maybe - just maybe, we were able to break through the silenced press just in time to save our butts.

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He is immune because he makes up rules, executive priveledge, own bracnh of gov't, he is fucking beyond accountable, in his mind. We call him the 'fourth branch'.

This is the most serious attempt at bringing impeachment hearings. Other bills have been floated. <quote>
Kucinich Introduces Impeachment Articles Against Cheney

CQ Transcripts Wire
Tuesday, April 24, 2007; 6:09 PM

REP. DENNIS J. KUCINICH, D-OHIO: Thank you very much for being here.</quote>
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042401542.html">WaPo</a>

Unfortunately, Pelosi (house) and Reid(senate) are chickenshits.

Whao!! Closer than anyone thinks:
<quote>Debate on Cheney Impeachment Averted

By JIM ABRAMS
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110601451.html">The Associated Press</a>
Tuesday, November 6, 2007; 5:07 PM

WASHINGTON -- House Democrats on Tuesday narrowly managed to avert a bruising debate on a proposal to impeach Dick Cheney after Republicans, in a surprise maneuver, voted in favor of taking up the measure.

Republicans, changing course midway through a vote, tried to force Democrats into a debate on the resolution sponsored by longshot presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. </quote>

<i>Is there a site to say no??</i>
Ask McCain. Or Huckabee or Pat Robertson. You can all pray for a no.

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Ms. Heysal. We knew this shit in 2002. First was 'the Energy Commission' comprised of energy(read oil) execs.
That was when Dick invoked executive privilege. Then, WMD in Iraq, not to mention terrorist ties - all lies by Rove and VP order.
Next: Valerie Plame. That one is still open, BTW, because the leak came from VP office. That is an executable offense for leaking classified espionage(where did Dick get that right again?), and treason for destroying the number one route(the only one?) into Iran's nuclear program. All gone at once.

Okay, here we are:
<quote>The resolution said that Cheney, "in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president," had "purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the U.S. Armed Forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security interests."

The 11-page resolution also charged that Cheney purposely deceived the nation about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida and has "openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran absent any real threat to the United States." </quote>

<quote>For the first two years of the George W. Bush administration, Cheney's office complied with a presidential order that requires officials to report statistics on the number of documents it classifies and declassifies.

Since 2003, however, Cheney's office has refused to submit the data to ISOO. And when ISOO inspectors tried in 2004 to schedule a routine inspection of the vice president's offices, they were rebuffed, Waxman's letter claims. </quote>
The Blotter: Cheney Power Grab: Says White House Rules Don't Apply to Him

<quote>(Political Animal) CHENEY AND IRAN....Remember that report from Steve Clemons last week about how Dick Cheney is hoping to get Israel to attack Iran in order to provoke a shooting war that will suck in the United States? Today in the New York Times, Helene Cooper confirms it:

In interviews, people who have spoken with Mr. Cheney's staff have confirmed the broad outlines of the report, and said that some of the hawkish statements to outsiders were made by David Wurmser, a former Pentagon official who is now the principal deputy assistant to Mr. Cheney for national security affairs.

Good 'ol David Wurmser. A neocon's neocon. Co-author in 1996 of "A Clean Break," the infamous document that proposed giving up on peace in the Middle East in favor of armed attacks on Syria, Iran, Lebanon, and, while we're at it, Iraq too. A man who proposed attacking South America in retaliation for 9/11. The guy who keeps Cheney bucked up when things look bad.</quote>
Cheney And Iran, By Kevin Drum - CBS News

<quote> Bush also told federal prosecutors during his June 24, 2004, interview in the Oval Office that he had directed Cheney, as part of that broader effort, to disclose highly classified intelligence information that would not only defend his administration but also discredit Wilson, the sources said.

But Bush told investigators that he was unaware that Cheney had directed I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice president's chief of staff, to covertly leak the classified information to the media instead of releasing it to the public after undergoing the formal governmental declassification processes....
</quote>
Murray Waas(National Journal), Frontline(PBS) links here:
Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » Fourthbranch: The Misadventures Of Cheney And His Minion Squad

Holy shaet, I have dozens of links and stories!

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Heysal, I know it's not a vote, I'm just looking for the petition to stop the impeachment nonsense..

Maybe I'll go start one..

BTW, can you point to a "concentration camp" where American citizens are being held for exercising their right to disagree??

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MikMik -- this is not a NEW effort for impeachment --- this is an enforcement of Kuniche's bill. It had been ignored and Pelosi refused to activate it. Wexler and crew have found an old and never used statute that allows them to go around Pelosi, since it was her job to activate kuniche's bill. What the petition is for is to strengthen the move for hearings by showing public support when it was called for.

Most impeachment attempts targeted Bush - which is like killing the monkey and letting the Organ Grinder go free. Because Cheney is so dangerous, we can't impeach Bush first - you know who we would end up with for President if we did? Cheney. Not a good idea.

So all in all - this isn't just another push - it's the final act of the real one. Everyone who signs shows more public support for it and there is more likelihood of gaining enough support in the house and congress to do this -- the Democrats don't want to do ANYTHING about ANYTHING because they are afraid they won't get re-elected, the signatures are making sure they realize enough support that they probably won't have jobs if they don't get in line.

Feydakin - yes.
The FEMA camps are built Hitler style concentration camps. The fences have the barbed wire at the top pointing inward instead of outward - Homeland security told us they were for protection, but if that were so the wires would face outside - they are built to keep people in, not to protect those inside.
There have been airproof buildings built in the camps which boxcars can be fit into - and gas released. There are railroad cars with shackles and many "portable" cages which can be rail loaded - big enough for many people.
There are 800 worldwide such as Gitmo. Many are right here in the states. I believe it was Kunich who admitted their true purpose when asked - you can google it.

These were considered to be just "conspiracy" theory for a long time but it has now been admitted they exist. Those at top claim that they are in case of invasion - but - put that together with these facts and then read about Hitler's rise - step by step conformance right here:

We have no habeus Corpus any more.
We have illegal survellience going on.
A move for national Hitler regime style identification
We have a press that is OWNED by Gov and Pals and Bush has a pal who is trying to buy up a few independents - and a bill to allow consolidation of the press at the same time some medias are being boycotted etc for being found to be covering news and covering the presidential race in a completely biased way - the way Bushco wants it. Fox news is the biggest offender now and their advertisers are now receiving boycott petitions.

Bill HR 1955 was passed without being on docket so that Americans would know about it - many things that were once a matter of everyday news are being decided "for" us behind closed doors. This bill will finalize taking American freedoms by disallowing the 1st amendment. While it says that it will uphold our rights there are clauses throughout that 1. take the right of speech 2. allows constant surveillance of people which is now illegal 3. allows the government to consider any person or group that is vocal (even when peacefully so) as a terrorist threat and seize them without reason, hold them indefinitely without cause, and torture or execute them as terrorists. There are legislators who have even admitted they didn't read it before signing.
It is now S1959 -- and if it goes through, you aren't seeing America anymore, you are seeing the 4th Reich and you will find many just disappearing.
While there is a major movement to stop this bill - many just haven't woken up to the severity of it and can't face that what happened in Germany can and is happening here.
Other things going on that our bought and paid for media isn't discussing - and is not allowed to ---
Homeland Security just hired a corporation especially for citizen survellience - and to make sure we conform to our leaders wills. LIterally.
Scholars of Bushco's choice have just been convened to study whether our forefathers meant that each citizen has the right to bear arms. -- So they are taking freedom of speech and working on taking guns - sound familiar?

Bush has been writing his own laws now for some time and has given himself complete power and the FEC (which monitors elections) is no longer a matter to worry about being corrupt as it has just been closed down.
It has been known for years that the last election was rigged - yet we have allowed a criminal to just walk in and set up housekeeping. Duh. There is a major movement now to ensure trackable votes. One rep in Alabama just bragged publically that he has successfully "caged" voters - which is illegal. He is paying for being stupid and arrogant enough to announce that one. Why are they all becoming so cocky about violating our ? Is that normal? Or is it because they know we are losing the rights we haven't already lost very soon?

The investigation on 9/11 has just been reopened because of cover ups that have been uncovered from the last investigation -- and because of evidence that there was involvement from the whitehouse -- these are not maniac conspiracy theorists saying this - there are 300 scientists and a list of high level military leaders who have called for reopening this investigation.

People are fighting the corruptions all over the place. Aren't seeing anything in the news about it? LOL, do you expect to? There have been several very huge demonstrations - one included 240 Major cities including a few in Canada and Geneva.

Protesters are being arrested even though the protests are peaceful -- many are still in detainment but you have to search the web to know about it. One of the politicians - I think it was Huckabee just had 8 arrested just because he didn't like what they were saying - and that is going to be an everyday practice. Some of these people get out on bail and some are still being held.

Our militia police force has been a question for a time now - they are using tasers in sadistic fashions. They have killed over 200 people with them now - and tasers are just a beginning. They are lightweight compared to the military weapons being brought to our police force complements of Cheney - they are expecting a revolt very soon and will be ready for us. One of these weapons is LIGHTNING. LOVE that one - if you go to my site Self Reliance in my sig you can find out all about that one - along with statements of why they should use it on Us first and the legislation that allows them to unleash weapons of war upon their own people.

Now - if this all sounds conspiracy theory, I will agree with you - 10 years ago I laughed at people who thought this way -- 5 years ago when I found out what they were going to do with the CODEX initiative I got scared and got active - the AMA almost killed me and alternative meds saved my life, I want my health freedom rights. Then I started looking at the rest - and dissed much of it as nonsense while looking at other stuff seriously -- now I know it is all serious and millions - not a few but millions have woken up and we are fighting to save our butts.

Go to Digg.com and dig the politics articles coming in - and do some research into things like S1959 and you will be stunned and disgusted with what you find. Then go look at discussions of some up-coming bills - check out patriotsquestion911.com for a real thrill - and other 911 investigation sites. Research about the 200 killed with tasers - like the unarmed woman in a wheelchair, man what a threat she was - or the woman who was held down handcuffed and repeatedly tased (I think it was 17 times) just for sadistic thrills.

Read about the camps - you can digg some articles from mainstream people who aren't "paranoid" as well as view some sites and even a few You Tubes that show them. Check out sites that talk about the new corp. Homeland Security has hired to keep an eye on us. Check out how Bush illegally signed himself in so many powers that are beyond the constitution and create a dictatorship for himself.

Check out sites that talk about what permissions we will have to have just to fly state to state soon - not even just international but the Gov will soon be able to deny you right to go state to state - without concrete reasons, they will just have to feel like it.

Now if you can look at all of those evidences, bills, petitions, etc - and not realize something very bad is happening here, I guess you have just been victimized by one of the 150 mind control patents the gov has. Do you know the difference between paranoia and a registered Patent? Like that cell phone?

All in all guy - we are in deep shit and it was the Gov's ability to hide what they were doing that has allowed it to go on so long. Thank god for the Internet - and know that if S1959 passes, we won't have freedom to say too much on here anymore - it is the Internet that got news around after the press was suppressed - and it is for this reason it has been targeted.

Welcome to 1984 and 1941 all wrapped up into one nice package.

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You are aware that most, if not all, of these things were in place as far back as the early 90s during Clinton's administration, aren't you?? Many of these "camps" are collections of warehouses behind fences, railroad depots, and generic prisons that were built, or repurposed, during the presidency of Mr. Clinton.. Many even before that.. Many after that.. Oh wait, Clinton was in Skull and Bones too.. Maybe it's a secret shadow government that transcends left and right and making a grab for power.. I wonder if that shiny new prison they built down the street from us is an internment camp??

And just to be clear, an Air Force train at an Amtrak station does not equal concentration camp..

This has been an "ongoing" process for better than 30 years.. To somehow think that all of a sudden this has happened in the last 5 or 10 seems a bit naive.. And to think that "any" politician has your best interests at heart is even worse..

What I do find entertaining is that the new politics of the US requires that whoever is in power be brought up under impeachment charges while they are in office.. It doesn't matter what is going on, there will always be a reason to at least try to impeach someone..

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And to think I just wasted 7 minutes reading this thread after it taking 8 minutes to load on dialup....

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So you are claiming the US government has a policy to mass exterminate people in gas chambers? Where? Who?

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Sorry, Heysal, I do not disagree with you one tiny bit. I merely wanted to point out that this is a (finally) serious proposal, but already contemplated - seriously. Getting real serious now, and thanks for the heads up!!!
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So, MartinScholes, you feel secure posting on the internet? You think you can say anything? How about if your cousin twice removed talked to Al sabin Mahoot last year, then some bitch getting waterboarded said that Al Mahoot was al Qauda. Then any data mined was relevant, and anyone with a remote connection gets monitored.
You are on a thread calling for Cheney's impeachment. You don't get to explain, you get held, Guantanimo.


As far as your arguments about people that give a shit about real freedom:
Gas Chambers(That is your implication.) = tyranny =
!STRAW MAN!, you silly! I know this like the back of my hand.

This is the easiest argument to destroy. If you cannot use a real example of liberal, or concerned opinion, I guess you don't have a point, do you?

Make up bogeymans, and ascribe that to your opposition.

Why do not you use relevant example. Like The retroactive immunity for telecoms. That is the bill right now.

How about John Bolton getting the US signature of the war crimes definition at the UN. What was that all about?

How about Cheney having a $200,000 paper shredding bill while claiming immunity due to first, exec priviledge, then when subpeaonead, claiming not part of exec branch.

Like I said, where did Libbey get his instructions from. His boss? You think?
Habeus Corpus, anyone? Commitas Posse? WTF happened to those very basic rights, indeed, the gaurantee of freedom that those ammendmants gauranteed. They are legally suspended at exec whim now.

Do not paint fake caricatures. You already have but I will give you a break with a warning just this once.

Then, I will get logical and surgically precise and comprehensive in exposing faulty arguments, and question you why you use lame tactics. Then, we will see the tap dancing, or the truth.

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Who knows if they will do mass exterminations - they are setting up to legally be able to detain us en mass, torture is legal, so what will they do to thousands of detainees that they claim are anti-american? Not the first time in history this has been the plan. The camps, yes, have been in place for years and they have been continually working on them - no one thought much about it at first. Anyone who proclaimed they looked like concentration camps was considered hysterical and paranoid - but they now have all the features of Hitler's camps.
If you want to put that together with the bill that first passed without even being placed on dockets that the public could review - and makes it possible to arrest anyone anytime for saying anything that disagrees with any authority from local police on up - can you be comfortable? If you look at the play by play history of the rise of hitler and the play by play of events since G. Bush took office - can you feel comfortable? When you see the open acknowledgments of legislators who are absolutely furious about powers that the Exe. office have written for themselves, can you feel comfortable? When you see legalized torture along with suspension of habeus Corpus at the same time, can you feel comfortable. When you put that together with S1959 - can you honestly say that all indications are not frightening?

That's why there is a sudden explosion in people fighting against it all - they finally pulled enough crap that they lost ability to keep it contained and hushed any longer. Now the mainstream is fighting to take it all back.

Knowing what I do about Bush's grandfather's part in bringing Hitler to power - then seeing the same process working step by step in this country - and also being aware that the scientists and leaders from Germany after WWII - how can anyone not take the proper precautions --- listen to what Franklin warned us as well as what a few of our other forefathers had to say about the possibilities of hostile elements in our our leadership.

Now what if I am wrong? And we protect our freedoms and keep Congress straight and punish them for pulling illegal actions. Who gets hurt? Only a crook.
Now what if I am right? And we laugh it off as can't happen? Hundreds of thousands of our own citizens can die brutal deaths and the rest will be treated as no more than cattle in a stockyard.
Which side do you want to err on?

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MikMik, Heysal raised an interesting point, which I wanted more information on, and you started raving about Strawmen. By waving several of your own.

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Thanks for clarifying that point.

And here's something to ponder on. In the mid-1980s it was announced on BBC Radio 4 breakfast news that a law had been passed that should a state of emergency exist, any British subject could be forced to work for the US government.

Yes, not forced to work for the UK government, but forced to work for the US government.

Now what would happen to UK citizens who do not want to work for the US government? There don't seem to be any specially prepared camps in the UK (We'd probably notice. We ARE a very small country! ) maybe British subjects who refused to work for the US government would be flown over to the US camps?

And please let's remember that this law dates back to before any real hints of International Muslim terrorism...

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Sinclair Lewis as saying, "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross."

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MY Grandfather left Germany in 1927. How did 3rd Reich get power?

Legally. Hillary clinton and the senate voting 97-0 to decalre the Iran guard as a terrorist organization.

Hmmm. Jew, Mulsim/terrorist.
Dolchstoßlegende, 1%chance=invade. (Cheney)
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