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Old 01-22-2004, 10:17 AM
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Default Sam Got Canned!

Following the "Business Reality" show, "The Apprentice"...

It was past time for Sam and his over inflated ego to go!!!

Can you imagine picking those 16 applicants out of a pool of 215,000, as America's brighest?

I bet our friends in other countries are thinking "New levels of Mediocrity!", or something worse.

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Hi GE,

I am addicted to that show. According to the local newspaper psychologist, we love to see over-achievers fail. The 215 k brightist...i dont know about that. There are some very successful and educated people in that group though. Sam was not Trump material I agree.

Hey lets be a monday morning quarterback. How you would have done things different if you were Sam?
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I have never seen the show, have seen the commercials and enough snippets (while trying to get the dog off the remote) to wonder a few things:

1. Where are the homely people? Granted I live in rural America and therefore am possibly not aware that in the big city everybody in corporate life must be good looking.

2. Where are the women bigger than a size four?

3. Do women really wear outfits exposing deep cleavage in your work place?

and finally

4. Who in their right mind would want to work for this arrogant SOB?

Just wondering...
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Question of the week!

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Money talks.
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Following in Unclefussy's footsteps:

to quote LauraB
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1. Where are the homely people? Granted I live in rural America and therefore am possibly not aware that in the big city everybody in corporate life must be good looking.

2. Where are the women bigger than a size four?

3. Do women really wear outfits exposing deep cleavage in your work place?

and finally

4. Who in their right mind would want to work for this arrogant SOB?

Just wondering...
1, Actually, it is true that people are advantaged in corporations because they are good looking. They also can afford the BEST of 'surgeons'. lol

2, The producers of the show are all intimdated by normal sized women. (This may be a 'made up fact' on my part)

3, I'm gonna have to check this show out! (Just kidding, but think 'ratings' again, and also Unclesfussy LOL quote "Money talks.)

4, It is worth working for this type, just to be close enough to get enough for blackmail. That is where the real money, not to mention satisfaction, is at!
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Yeah, I'm glad he got canned also.

Trump kept him around thinking he may have that gutsy kinda risk-taker .

Too much of an idiot for that
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Ken wrote:
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"Business Reality" show, "The Apprentice"...
And cyanide, reportedly an HP enthusiast with:
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Trump kept him around....
You mean Donald Trump?

The cutthroat Billionaire? Or some other 'Trump?

I ask because Love2travel said:
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Is he hiring?
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Here’s my call:

Given the size of the task and short time frame to accomplish the goals:

First thing I would have done would have been to split everyone up more, so that they could focus on the best price for 1 item. I didn’t see the sense in 2 teams of 3 or so – dealing with NYC transportation logistics.

Everyone could have spent an hour (min) doing personal research on where to purchase their assigned product for the lowest price and left a little later much more organized with a list of merchants to try, organized top down from the most likely to discount and possibly clustered in the same geographical region of town..

Then I would have assigned the best logistical type/researcher/negotiator to stay back as coordinator, and beat the pavement myself assisting coordination from a mobile stance.

I sure wouldn’t have sent the teams to sources that not only didn’t have, but didn’t even carry the targeted product.

How many times did they have to tell him to shut his yapper and listen – Not a good leader at all ----- Seems like Sam was more interested in shoving some worn out football team analogy down everyone’s throats in a continually bloated monolog, than listening or providing good direction. Was there any pre-negotiation over the phone with merchants? I didn’t see any, why not?

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cyanide wrote:
"Yeah, I'm glad he got canned also.

Trump kept him around thinking he may have that gutsy kinda risk-taker .

Too much of an idiot for that"
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I think he also thought that at worst - he would make good tv and he did!
The best part was the look on his face when Trump fired him!

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mik,

Yes it's the infamous Donald Drump! If you haven't seen the show, the prize is a $250k/yr presidental position with one of his companies.

The business aspect makes it worth watching for me. Every week someone get's fired!

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Default The Hair!

After seeing his residence, I have a theory about what might be going on with his hair:

High concentrations of microwaves are trapped and continually bouncing around that 24ct gold plated pimped out high rise pad with no way to escape - simply cooking the folicules.

Better let that helicopter set on the pad for a day or two and call in a feng shui specialist!

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Well, when Sam fell aseep while working on a project in the second episode.

That pretty much told me everything

I like the show, though .. IMO, one of the better 'reality shows
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I still can't figure out what the attraction is with reality shows. Candid camera was amusing, but when the America's home video stuff started I began to feel somewhat uncomfortable. Laughing while someones wedding dress caught on fire, or the cat mistakenly was tossed in the dryer with the load of laundry does not make me chuckle.

Now the whole gambit of eating worms (or worse) and being publicly humiliated whether it is being spurned by a would be lover or dumped by a would be boss disgusts me.

Sorry! I will get off my soap box and shut up.
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Hello,

Yes the show is a bit over the top. It's worth it for me just to watch the Donald be himself. I seen Don ( I am on a first name basis with him) in NYC in front of the Trump tower. He double parked in front of his building (was there no under ground parking?)He got out with SIX body guards wearing dark suits and sunglasses. Don then fixed his tie and walked slow as possible thru the crowded st so that everyone can see him. I thought that was pretty cool back then ( I was about 19). Don I guess craves attention. Point is , I dont think he is acting like that just for TV, he is like that in real life.

As for your strategy GE. Thats exactly what I would have done. Sam commanded respect, which he did not yet earn. I dont believe he did not listen to everyone. The Project manager should listen more and act more as a mediator. Only bring on the executive decisions when need be.

Who will go next?
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Hello,


I just seen a commercial for tonight's episode. The teams are each given one night to run Planet Hollywood NY. First night belongs to the ladies, second night the men. The winner is the team who produces the most profits from the same day last year.

Hopefully the men will score a win tonight. They have an advantage without Sam weighing them down. The ladies have a restauranteur in the group. I forget her name but she owns a restaurant in Santa Monica and several rental properties at the age of 26 I think (cough cough rich kid whos parents paid for it, cough cough). The disadvantage is some of the ladies are bickering..Omarossa who I thought was excellent at the beggining, has really stirred things up. Is it just me, or is she a bit childesh for a PH.D?

Any predictions on what will happen tonight? How would you maximize revenue for one night?
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There are always good "cat fights" on that show. My wife tells me she would much rather work around men!!! lol

We will see what happens tonight!

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Bowie,

Another exciting show!!! After running Planet Hollywood, the men lost yet again. This is getting pathetic. The girls are using there sexuality to win all these contest. The men although they work together well, dont have much in the creative department.

If i was the project manager, I would have tried to hold some type of theme night. Since they were judged on increase in revenue (not the bottom line). Why not just go ahead and hire some celebrity impersonators to play outside!!! rent speakers, get a permit and have a big free rock concert all night. As well HIRE ppl to go outside and shuck the restaurant instead of doing in yourself.

Bowie did a great job...not sure if Donald shold have fired Nick though. Anyways I cant wait till next week.

How would you maximize restaurant REVENUE for one night?
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Default Corporate reshuffle coming

The men are getting their arses whipped - NOT PRETTY!

But, The women were sternly warned not to use their "sexuality" anymore.

Even my wife agreed last night's scenario was biased toward the women!

Looks like a corporate reshuffle coming down - Maybe 2 teams of 2 men nd 4 women.

My TEXAN is still hanging in there though!

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I've decided to revive this older topic as "The Apprentice" aired its final segment last night -- and Bill was the winner.

This particular thread caused me to become interested in the show; I don't want a whole lot of television and have eschewed reality shows as most of their premises were "yaaaaaaaaaaawwwwnnnn." I've never been a celeb-watcher and "The Donald" has always been a rather uninteresting personality to me. I found him arrogant to the extreme and wasn't remotely interested in his lifestyle of "the rich and famous."

However, I did end up semi-hooked on "The Apprentice." And, the show did evolve into something fairly interesting overall. I found that the women were far more backbiting than the men, but this also included some bluntspeaking honesty. The men never really said what they meant.

I do know that if anyone ever hires Omorosa, they need to review all of the shows, especially the grand finale. She is a walking excuse for non-performance who elevated herself to a walking liar of the first magnitude.

I have grave doubts about just exactly what Bill's duties will be, as there is no way that any one of these candidates have sufficient knowledge or experience to handle a task of such magnitude -- overseeing the construction of the new Chicago Trump Tower and Hotel. Perhaps an administrative assistant, yes. President of the company? Ha!
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What about Sam? Any doubt I had about him being insane are long gone. I hope that offering Trump $250,000 was just a stunt and that he wasnt serious.
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Default Trump still hasn't accepted Sam's offer

I dunno if Trump actually accepted the briefcase full o'cash or not. I didn't watch the first episodes and "Sam was canned" by the time I tuned in; so I dunno about his sanity or lack thereof. It definitely was strange. Anyone who can make that amount of money to give it away doesn't NEED Trump. Although, needing Trump is a downright strange idea in its own right.

Ok -- time to go googling on this . . .

Following Sam's firing in January, USANews interviewed Trump:

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Trump gave Solovey the ax but continued to defend him. "He's a wild man, brilliant and capable," Trump said Wednesday.

Trump says the men's strategy of making Solovey team leader was brilliant because it forced his hand. "They all wanted to get rid of him. I think they wanted to lose (to get rid of him)."

Trump agreed with Edmond's observation that the men are too friendly, "going along to get along" and might learn a lesson from the women.

"The women are highly strung. They have been fighting like cats and dogs," Trump says. But if he were their boss, it's unlikely he would interfere with their methods. "I never like to stop people from winning."

Harmony is important to some work teams, Trump says, but not always. "There have been great football and baseball teams that fought all the time."
A fun followup article to this week appears on E! Online News, with several notable quotes (and they didn't know the outcome to Sam's offer, either):

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At The Apprentice afterparty, Kwame was reportedly offered a cushy position managing one of the portfolios of Mark Cuban, billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks, according to Extra and starmagazine.com.

The Internet mogul reportedly waited for hours to gain the runner-up's ear and spring the job offer on him.

"I'm deciding and we're going to be talking," Kwame told Extra. "I mean, I'm just flattered that he waited around for me." (Star's Website reports that Kwame accepted the position.)
and, hahaha . . .

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And then there's the women everyone loves to hate: Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth. While Trump hinted that Omarosa may make an appearance in season two of The Apprentice, reports indicate that the show's villain isn't one of the mogul's favorites.

According to Us Weekly, Omarosa begged for a gig as one of the judges at Trump's Miss USA pageant in Los Angeles on April 12--but to no avail.

"There was no way we were going to make her a judge," a pageant source told Us. "Mr. Trump is annoyed."
And, Warner Bros, ExtraTV didn't have the answer on Sam, either:

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So what about Sam, who stunned Trump during the live finale by offering him $250,000 in cash just so he could work for The Donald? "I'm an out-of-the-box guy," Sam insisted. "It’s 24 hours later. We still don’t have a deal, but Trump still has my money.
Guess, it's still too soon to know.
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There is a lot of brewing controversy in the business world over Trump's management style!

The next round promises to be even better!

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