Have Site, Need Traffic

[Mr. Bill]

Greetings;

Can anyone refer me to a place that they have used that has helped to drive lots of laser targeted traffic to their site?

I am looking for first hand experience, not just a referal to a program, because you are an affiliate. I have lined too many pockets other than my own and wish to work with an outfit that actually delivers on the hype they produce in their advertising.

Can anyone help?

[homenotion]

Hello Mr. Bill,

I have found 'nothing' that will drive traffic to my site other than Pay per click search engines. I advertise on Google and Overture and research carefully gathering keywords and writing ads. I'm not perfect at it yet but getting there. The other thing is write articles and submit them to ezines. That's a great way to get notariety or develop an opt-in list, which always makes me grin as you can't get an opt-in list if no one is seeing your site! So my advice is start with Google or Overture.

Best of luck to you.
ELizabeth
www.pro-marketing-online.com

[rybo]

Mr Bill,

I would agree with Elizabeth, what's helped to drive traffic to our website is Google pay per click (not so much Overture and Espotting for us) and writing lots of Press releases and articles for ezines.

In addition, we have set up an affiliate program which is generating a lot of business for us.

The majority of our business is now coming from word of mouth/recommendation, but of course there is no way to control this.

Getting the website is only the start, after that it's serious time, energy and effort required to market it!

Sorry, that there's no secret remedy I can offer.

Good luck,

[gobuy]

Hi Bill,
I agree that the best traffic comes from Google and Overture.
There is a free way to get traffic to your web site but the traffic sometimes is poor. There called AutoSurf web sites. I have used them on my http://www.WallStreet.usand when I turn it off after using them the traffic does increase about 10 to 15%. Think of them as a banner ad so the web site needs to be easy to read, your domain name needs to be clear and easy to remember and the web site need to be fast down loading as many of the auto surf web site work on 15 to 30 seconds per web site view.

Henry

[jackson992]

Speaking of google did any aff marketers get hit like I did. I lost all my rankings on 5/6 sites. It's been a month now and still no signs of them coming back

[janeth]

Hi Mr. Bill,
We get traffic from
banner ads on forums,
from posting on forums,
from the free listings in the search engines,
press releases,
link exchanges,
articles we write,
sig exchanges in emails,
and a news letter.

The biggest of these being the free listings in the search engines. Each one is important and carries a little weight. I would never put all my marketing into one place.

[Linda Buquet]

Jack,

Being Goggle dependent has hurt lots of affiliates. That's why I think this thread is great. I think Mr. Bill is looking for a specific company that delivers results, but let's share any ideas we can about other ways to generate traffic.

Does anyone subscribe to the http://www.trafficology.com newsletter? It's jam packed with unique traffic generating ideas.

Janeth, thanks so much for sharing your ideas too. Ok let's keep this thread going. What else have any of you tried that works well???

[jackson992]

hi all:

Art.com just sent me a referral to something I'm trying. It is called Traffic Source. I don't know how effective it is but thought I would give it a try.

I also want to stress how great forums can be especially if they are topic related. Have an auto site? Join a forum that talks about cars and car parts and even let them know you carry such and such a part.

One last thing. Always, always, always have your sites listed in your email sig:)

[xmx]

Hello,

you mentioned already some of the best ways to drive traffic to a site.

Anyway I add the services that deliver traffic to your site selling you the so called full page popunder ads.

This mean that they generates a guaranteed amount of unique visitors, but they are no way deciding to see your site, so only a minority of them can be interested in your products or services.

If you want I provide you a couple of links so you can directly see what this promotional resource is:

http://www.hitzpro.com/
http://www.buyhitscheap.com/

There is also ezine advertising and regularly posting to safelists, but there are so many I don't dare to give you direct links.

[Karrina]

Hi Bill. I work for a company that does this as a service. Including continued tracking and consulting not just a one-time SEO. We back up what we do.

Karrina
kgregory@topfloortech.com

[rambodog]

We deal with a lot of websites - predominantly business. As you would expect they all generate traffic via:
1)quality search engines
2)PPC (Pay Per Click)
3)URLs listed in authored articles and Forum postings.

While PPC generates a lot of traffic we are paying as much as $20 per click on some competitive terms on Overture. Google Adwords have been much more affordable for the same terms. Understanding how to write the ad to attract appropriate click-throughs is vital. **In addition to Overture and Google Adwords we use Business.com and Capterra.**

However, traffic directly from search response (predominantly Google, Yahoo, MSN, AOL) generate a lot of quality traffic.

Traffic, and increased search rankings, are developed with the publication of quality online articles that contain the particular sites listing.

With many of our PPC campaigns averaging $1,500 to $2,000/month the direct search/online article listings are vital for sites without that type of budget.

Without question the most important aspect of a site is having quality, relevant, machine readable text on the website pages that incorporates the keywords in a natural (organic) manner.

[golferboy]

There are a lot of different ways to drive targeted traffic to your site, some free and some not.

As far as pay-per-clicks, I agree that Google Adwords is fantastic! Overture has not been very good for me, nor FindWhat or Kanoodle.

There are at least five main things that you need to do to drive traffic to your site. I have just recently published a book called Niche Rich - The Perfect Business which covers the main five things you need to do plus a bunch more.

Depending on your product and your reputation, joint ventures are also a great way to go, providing you have your own product and not an affiliate for one.

The main thing is to be patient......it takes awhile to get listed in the search engines for the regular listings, and if you aren't on the first or second page, you are not going to get much traffic from them anyway so besides being patient I would have an advertising budget because if you don't advertise, nothing happens!

And, if you do it right, you can make a fortune!

Jim Longnecker
http://www.Niche-Rich.com
http://www.7713000.com Your eMarketPlace

[voodooboy]

I personally have not tried overture or google ads yet. But since Catalyst asked us to share things that we have tried I thought I would share this with you. I have recently decided to grow my local business. I started by going to overtures web site and using their keyword suggestion tool. I put in web design, then drilled down from there to get to Knoxville web design. (Which Knoxville is my local market) There are not a lot of searches for this search term, but it is pretty consistent month to month, so I decided to start there.

I then went to www.instantposition.com and used their SEO-Doctor tool (which is free for now) and did a test on my index page for Knoxville web design. I then took about 2 hours and optimized my index page to end up with a 27 out of 30 score for the “Knoxville web design” term and a 30 out of 30 for the term “web design”.

Once I got these scores, I resubmitted my site to some of the free search engine listings. I was already in Yahoo and Google (only found under my site name) so I left them alone.

After last weeks updates my rankings are now as follows for the search term “Knoxville web design” (with an average result listing of over 200,000):

AOL Search - #6

MSN - #10

Yahoo - #7

Google - #6 and #17

Alta Vista - #7

All the Web - #11

Now this is for a site that was not found under any search terms at all except for actually typing in the site name “Glacial Point” as the search term since the late 90’s. (I was not much into page rank back then…)

I am starting to believe that if you have a very specific target market, you can get good rankings without spending a lot of money (or any at all, in my case). Now if I was going for the most generic search term “web design”, then I would say that Google Adwords and Overture are your best bet, for high placement.

I hope this info helps somebody, as it did me.

Best of luck to all.

[lseeley]

Hi Mr. Bill,

I too am a search engine professional, and I want to reiterate what Janeth said: Don't put all your eggs in one basket. There are many SEO companies out there (ours included), which offer a variety of services. I'd look for one that offers several internet marketing options, and is willing to give you a consultation in advance to determine what would work best for your website/product. Internet marketing is definitely not "one size fits all", and someone who knows the marketplace can steer you away from a bad investment.

Although PPC (pay per click) is a guaranteed traffic provider, it can get very expensive. We always try to combine it with other options to see if we can get the price down a bit. If you can start to achieve solid rankings and traffic on free search engines, it's a much better ROI!

My main caution in terms of looking for someone to help you with internet marketing is to beware of that hype you mention. As in all things, promises that sound too good to be true probably are. We've "inherited" a lot of disillusioned clients from other companies, and it's distressing to me sometimes to hear what promises are made. Check the offer to make sure it's realistic, check the testimonials and case studies they offer, and check the guarantees, to make sure you aren't left empty-handed if things don't work out well.

Good luck!

[webiff]

Well the best way i can recommend you to drive large traffic to your website is through Banner Advetisment and Link Exchange with other websites. You may advertise on our website http://www.ApnaHyderabad.com/ which already contains large numbers of visitors from all around the world.

Reagrds,
ApnaHyderabad.com Team

[eko]

Hi all,

I will talk about my experiences on marketing as a site owner.
1)Adwords on Google was terrible resulted last year(or 2 years ago) and costed really much.The turn over was too little according to your spending.But this year I must accept that they suprised me.Adwords added really good functions to filter the clicks.Also by their new system, you are not always falling under the CTR.As everybody knows here I dont like Google very much but their improvements impressed me.
2)Overture was my favorite till my last campaign.Unfortunately, their Editor Team is a real disaster!I can not belive how a team can get this much lazy and careless in a year.
When you want to "modify your listing" this means when you want to change your keywords or description, you will have lots of problems.They have a "loading system" This is for users who must load their modified listing to Overture,this form can be in form of excel,text or .. BUT it s not possible to success.Catching their accessable type is more difficult than "writing a new OS"
If you request their Editors to modify your list by themself,their standart answer is "Sorry, you must do it by yourself" If so, why Im paying? If they wont help me, why IM paying 0.15 per click?
I explain this point by 5 emails,Overture customer service called me 2 times but they refused to help.

So,I cancelled my campaign and wanted my remaining money in my account but the caller woman told we can do modify in very short time for you.Yeah,she told we can do this.Then why you havent done up to now?
Ofcourse I didnt accept and wanted my money back.
Do you know what they told to me? They will send my remaining money but this can take 8 or 12 weeks!!! What is this? They are charging very quick but sending back in nearly 3 months.This is not fair!
I definetly wont advertise on Overture again,their stuff were more helpful and friendly last year but now,NO!

Im starting campaign on an affiliate in these days, this is a new experience for me.I will report the results and my feelings soon.Lets see.

I hope this will article gives you some ideas about advertising.Wish you all the best

[igor1]

I obtained a quite nice traffic to my website a few month ago.

www.ij.nQ.pl (Polish version)

However the most of this trafic was generated by teenagers seeking Java Virtual Machine to start an online chat.
The reason is simply: they typed "Java" into search box of WP search engine
(see "Wirtualna Polska" at : http://www.ij.nq.pl/english/engines.jsp ).

I am a programmer. JAVA is my area of interest. Thus the keyword is important.

As result I have added a short instruction: "how to download JAVA" (at the bottom of the front page).

Yes, indeed, my website still needs traffic ...

[hbonline]

Believe it or not I use Pop-unders, I have found it to be a quick and cheap way to increase traffic. It might not be the most targeted way, but you can regionalize your popunders. Since my site is pretty much a tourist destination, everyone is a potential visitor.

I am really after someone who will bookmark my site and check it out later. The way I look at it is if I can get 10,000 people bookmarking my site I will have repeat viewers.

I also created a surf-exchange ( http://www.surf-exchange.com )for local business which generates popunders. The more local members I get the more local traffic I get!! I think it works pretty well. Right now I get about 2,500 visits per day from my surf-exchange.

I am trying to get 200 local businesses signed up that way if they have 25 visits a day that is a potential of 5,000 popunders per day! And if those 200 sites get 100 visits per day that is potentially 20,000 Per Day!

I am talking PER DAY most sites are struggling just to get 100 visits per day.

Also with my advertising on my site, I generate way more than enough money to pay for my advertising, I now have a smooth running FREE traffic machine.

and yeah I know lots of people have popup blockers, but most don't and if you use DHTML or Flash they can't be blocked.

Since I rank high in the search engines I don't want to pay overture or google ads to pop-up twice ;)

Today in Alexa I rank: 38,209

using the keyword "huntington Beach" my site comes up:

• #1 in MSN
  #6 in Google
  #3 in Teoma
  #3 in Yahoo
  #3 in AOL Search

check out the site at: http://www.hbonline.com

later

Nick

[karkfump]

I am not an educated professional in this arena, but my business does depend on my ability to keep my website out there where my potential clients may find it, and thus I have spent thousands of hours working toward this goal. First, I will say that I do focus on a limited number of keyword phrases that I have constantly seen come up in my site stats, and the main three for my business are, "alaska hunts,Dall sheep hunts, and brown bear hunts." At this present time I am #1 and #2 on Google for "Dall sheep hunts," #3 and #5 on Yahoo, and #1 and #6 on MSN. My results are similiar for the other two search phrases, although "alaska hunts" has bounced erratically from, #8-20 on Google since the last update. I feel my position has been excellent, and during the month of March I had 1,731 unique visitors with 20,080 page views. This is a good amount of traffic for this type of business, and things continue to increase.

What do I use that works? The number one thing I focus on is plenty of relevant content. It simply can't be said enough. Many of my competitors have one to three pages with virtually no content and I have around 30-40 pages of substantial content. Not to mention that I have two other independent websites under my alaskahunts.net domain, and these two website total over 3,000 webpages (one is simply family history). I have recently added two new relevant domain names and connected such to my business site (the main site is www.alaskahunts.net, and the 2 new domains are www.brown-bear-hunts.com, and www.dall-sheep-hunts.com)and these sites have been readily indexed by Yahoo, Google and other search engines. I have started using Ad Words on Google, but I find it to be of limited value thus far, but I am not willing to spend a truckload of money per click, since I am getting satisfactory results with the techniques I am already using. I have recently paid to have a premium listing in one outdoor directory that has an Alaskan hunting forum that I frequent and post on routinely. Since it is allowed I do add my signature on that forum, and it includes links to my three main domains, and this drives relevant traffic to my site.

Another new tactic that I recently learned about on this forum is the use of rss feeds to provide relevant news about my business to those who are interested in such. My hosting service includes a blogging database, but I found blogger.com to be very adequate for me to get a blog up and running, actually two separate blogs, and Yahoo will index these atom (rss, or whatever this is) feeds if you add them to your content on My Yahoo. Now I am getting results from people finding my blogs in Yahoo, and other engines have picked them up as well, and the rss feeds are there for anyone that wants to subscribe to them.

I have decided that I will put money where it counts, and from what I can see, these places are usually well ranked directories, that I can pay for ads without having to use reciprocal links. This is what I am looking for, but the price has to be right. For instance, I advertise with a premium listing on http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/dir...uthcentral.htm for $39 per year and they have a Google PR of 5 on that page, but other companies want $250 for an ad, and they will have a PR of 1, or 2. It isn't going to happen.

Personally I don't think there is a place that will drive the right customers to our websites in the fashion that we want, since there will always be a competitor wanting the same thing from the same company, but I do believe, that a dynamic website with constantly updated info and material will always rise to the occasion.

[Keimos]

Hi Mr Bill,

Just thought I would pru my twopenny worth in.

There have been many good suggestions in previous replies and the main theme that I agree with is that you need to distribute your marketing to a lot of different places.

i.e. Directories, Adwords etc.

There are main things to consider, mainly your budget. As a totally Internet driven business I have found that content and size of site are a couple of key factors in being found. The bigger the site with relevant content that is updated will maintain a fairly good ranking.

Get listed on as many free directories that are relevant to your main search terms, how would you or your customers be looking for you.

Keywords are critical as the wrong keywords used via ppc or adwords will produce limited results. Adwords work when you actually get the search term that the majority of your customers are looking for what you are offering.

As for pop-ups and banner-ads, I personally have both switched off when browsing as I find them to be a nuisance.

Our budget for adwords is $200 a day limited to the top keywords found in our stats. We have over 1100 keywords yet the phrase we started with is still tops. We have been regularly ranked in the top ten sice 1997 apart from the november google reconfig.(it will happen again next november, be warned. Happens every year)

As I digress, adwords was started to take into account ranking, whether with overture , google or any one else. We could be found whatever. We have never reached the £200 a day mark ever nor by month because our site is found not only through the index but through the other pages that are relative to what people are looking for. (Google, MSN, Alltheweb, aol,Yahoo etc.) They do not account for the most traffic, which comes from directories that are picked and chosen to ensure that they are relevant to our product.

Having given away most of the secrets that those touting for business were looking for good luck. Take all trhe advice mix it together and you will get there.

Time and effort are what wil get you there.

Oh and by the way, choose your affiliates well. Do not go for the affiliate, find the chief, that is where you will get the best deal.

Happy hunting.

[hbonline]

Just to let you know my surf-exchange. com site just crashed the server it was on! They say the amount of popunders it was delivering was hammering ther server! So I guess I that's a good problem to have! ;)

hopefully I can get it up before I have change servers.

I am telling you this idea of making a surf-exchange for sites related to your site works!!!!!!

Plus you get to make money off the members if they want to buy extra popunders!

later
Nick

[steveteva]

Originally Posted by hbonline

Believe it or not I use Pop-unders, I have found it to be a quick and cheap way to increase traffic.

I agree with "hbonline", The best free traffic is pop under traffic exchange if you already have another website that have lots of traffic (I use TrafficSwarm), you can host your pop under on it in return you promote your new website. I will also recommend buying ads in good Ezines, just type "ezine advertising" in your prefered search engines to find some. But the last but not the least is Search Engine Optimization (free if you do it yourself or up to thousand dollars done by SEO)
I don't know what your site is about, but what I do to get traffic and subscribers is to build a quality freeware or Ebook and submit to all freeware or free ebooks websites. Guarantee you'll get traffic if your product is in demand and is a quality product.

[ms_promoqueen]

has anyone used ineedhits.com submit pro to get traffic if so what are you results? I've been considering using them but want to know what eferyone thinks. Right now I use their free service once a month along with dream submit and a few others.

[steveteva]

Originally Posted by ms_promoqueen

has anyone used ineedhits.com submit pro to get traffic if so what are you results? I've been considering using them but want to know what eferyone thinks. Right now I use their free service once a month along with dream submit and a few others.

Submit to search engines will not give you better traffic. Your website must be optimized and have a lot of reciprocal links (Hi PR site links that match your keywords). Yo can go with ineedhits or any web promotion (free is better) it will not change your rank and since you've not in top 20 under your keywords and under Google or Yahoo search results, it's waste of money.

[hbonline]

OK here is another thing I do:

I generate quite a bit of traffic as discussed previousely through popunders. But what good are those popunders if they don't stick around??

Well I give away FREE STICKERS http://www.hbonline.com/sticker.htm and guess what I get about 20 requests for stickers every day! that's 7,500 requests per year, or over 21,000 in three years!! now that sounds like a long haul but I am in it for the long haul.... keep in mind they have to e-mail me to get the sticker which means I get their e-mail address ;) I now have a e-mail list of over 7,500 and growing. This is great for a newsletter, or even selling ads to local business in the newsletter.

I was giving away a t-shirt for FREE and only charging $5.95 for shipping and handeling, that worked pretty well considering I found a place that will 6 color screen and INCLUDE the shirt for $3.95 think about it that leaves $2.00 for postage. It is virtually FREE for you, but you could have thousands of people walking around advertising for you! http://www.promodart.com/product.i?sku=395-SPECIAL is the link for the shirts if your interested.

I like the stickers a little better because they are easier to mail, easier to pay for upfront and you don't need the visitor to part with any cash. You wouldn't belive how many cars in my city have my stickers! Very Cool!

This is not for every site, some just strike a chord for a sticker and some don't.

oh yeah, I just remembered get a guestbook!! you get e-mail address from those too!

I hate to admit to this but I used to do a search in google for guestbooks! lets say there was a vollyball tournament at the beach, I would search for "Guestbook Vollyball" (this link is one of the guestbooks I found just now!) , see all the e-mails!! http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/L...7/geobook.html , snag all the e-mails and send away. No one thaought they were spamed because it related to something they were interested in in-fact I got replies saying thanks for the info!! Now I don't want any of you to do this, that would be bad ;)

I am now a reformed e-mailer ;) Gee I need a Drink!

Anyways, what I am trying to say you need to get creative!! you need to make your site a visitor gathering machine!!

later

Nick

[hbonline]

Here is another idea:

Have a contest! I gave away a surfboard it cost me $275 for the board but I got a couple thousand entries. I will do it again and now I think I could get 5,000 entries! that is 5,000 email addressess.

later

Nick
http://www.hbonline.com

[TrafficProducer]

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[steveteva]

Originally Posted by ghstdrgns

I then went to www.instantposition.com and used their SEO-Doctor tool (which is free for now) and did a test on my index page for Knoxville web design. I then took about 2 hours and optimized my index page to end up with a 27 out of 30 score for the “Knoxville web design” term and a 30 out of 30 for the term “web design”.

Sir
I've subscribe free and try the seo doctor on many top 10 ranking websites under different keywords found in google results. All I can say is that none were 100% (good or excellent)but mostly "bad" and all was top 10 ranked ;-)

I only trust in hand work SEO.

[4werd8]

Just to think. Maybe if i (or you?) create my own toolbar (for example using this soft), customize it for my site and register it somewhere it possibly may bring an additional traffic! :)

[malcolm]

Do doorway (gateway, smart) pages working in improving seo? What are the dangers and advantages please?

Malcolm

[alsoran]

Things are becoming clumsy. Small leads are more useful than self-promoting.

Of all replies to this topic, ghstdrgns's is a good one. Consider his suggestion below (I quote a portion of that). May the fellow forum users offer something similar.

Originally Posted by ghstdrgns

I personally have not tried overture or google ads yet. But since Catalyst asked us to share things that we have tried I thought I would share this with you. I have recently decided to grow my local business. I started by going to overtures web site and using their keyword suggestion tool. I put in web design, then drilled down from there to get to Knoxville web design. (Which Knoxville is my local market) There are not a lot of searches for this search term, but it is pretty consistent month to month, so I decided to start there.....

[Build2Trade]

Thought this might be usefull. So paste a version of my reply.

Hi Bill,

Companies usually have two goals online:
Here are your options based on the two.

** Product or Service Sales:
in order to drive a product or service you need people to be coming to your site because they want to.

The most effective methods are:

1) Real World Marketing (Magazines,Business Cards, etc)
2) Viral Marketing - Referals etc.
3) Pay per click add's eg Adwords.
4) Search Engine Optimisation.
5) Press Releases linking to your site (This helps SEO).
6) Banner Advertising on relevant sites.
7) Proactive marketing to exisiting visitors.

** People who make money via banners

IF you make money from banners you dont care about quality of traffic because its about bumms on chairs acessing a file that earns your revenue.

The most effective ways to generate legitimate traffic.
(EG not counting browser automaters and proxy clones)

1) Traffic Exchange Programms (you earn points visiting a site and in exchange your site is viewed free trade basiicaly.)Some offer targeting.

2) Search engine optimisation (Again I must stress learn this properly and to it yourself - or pay to have a professional do it. A top ten placement if it is valid for 1 or 2 keywords - not some overly specific phrase should get you a 30% click through of serious visitors)

3) Incentive programs via banners - visit our site get a free keyring or standa chance to win a playstation - its not relevant what as people like free stuff.

4) Be Viral - referal programs, rewards etc etc.

5) real world marketing

Genereric to both

Have events, Sponser good causes, Create publicity.


The Golden Rule

Relevance - In your choice of adverts, banner purchases, SEO tatics - be relevant, choose relevant sites, market to the relevant people.

Should you require any advice feel free to chat to me at seopro@ishop3.com, always happy to help.

* Warning
[Also avoid pay for traffic sites 90% of them use hits bots and a proxy list. Simple math any company with disposable volumes of targeted visitors in batches up to a million would make enough banner revenue to buy microsoft. Not a tacky site with poor design and dynadns.]


Best Regards
Craig McLeod
Director Build2Trade Dot Com
MCSE, MCSD, SCO ACE, CCIE, Dip. Graphic Design,PHD. Comp Sci

[EJRS.COM]

I have practically built up the entire EJRS Network on a very very small budget (I was a noodle seller before and used to use my money from that to finance the project initially).
I used 0 CPC program or stuff like that. I did put lotsa content that generated interest. People love good content and sooner or later people will talk. If I watcha good movie I tell others about it. In same way someone else will squeal. So I decided to add games, and articles to the site and wrote to people with good products to join me in partnerships, offering people free stuff to my viewers. I went from 200 to 16,000 hits per day in within 6 mths. Now I have a faithful followers who use my website to get ideas and material.
Now I just give a whole lot of the money I get from proceeds my site generates to help people in need.

Believe in people and people will believe in you. Meet the needs of others and othes will meet your needs.

[AlanCheng]

As an owner of a website that sells internet traffic I have noticed what paid advertising customers normally buy again.

My website <url snipped by Catalyst> offers different kinds of traffic to cater for different needs. By far the most effective is Email Leads. Funnily enough, it does not have the most sales.

With Email leads one should buy in bulk from a trusted source. By a trusted source I mean a company that can supply you the ipaddress, and time stamp of the leads. Also the leads should be fresh
ie. not more than 10 days.

You must make sure how the leads are generated and what information they request for when they sunmitted their email address. After that you must know how to advertise to these leads.

The general formula to advertise to these leads is by first introducing yourself and service and tell them why you are contacting them. (Because they have asked for more information). After about 3 or 4 emails you can then sell them

This is by far the best way to get traffic to any site that I know of that is effective. With pay per click search engines, you miss out on visitors who may buy from you if they had more information about your product. But with email leads you can market your service to them continuously until they request to unsubscribe to your emails.

I have an offer at the moment for responsive email leads. You can enquire about it through the Real Traffic website via the enquiry form. This offer is not advertised on the website as it is a special one-off.

[hbonline]

These are the companies I use for Pop=Unders.

http://megapopups.com/ 100,000 for $85.00

http://1.g-emarketing.com/ 100,000 for $49.00

http://www.fullsubmission.com/guaranteed%20visitors.htm Once in a while they have specials
right not they have 1,000,000 for $299.00 that is a BARGAIN!!!

I have used all of these and had good results. I make a seperate POP-under page that loads fast!!! If your page takes a long time to load you will waste a visitor. On my pop page I compress all the graphics even more than on my main page and have text where ever I can, as text loads faster than graphics. Then if they click a menu item it takes them to my "REAL" site.

I still have my advertising displayed, that way if the visitor leaves I still got paid for the impressions. My site makes .001274 cents a visit just on the banner advertising (not counting my local advertising)so I make $127.40 for every 100,000 Which means if I can pay $49.00 for 100,000 I have a profit of $78.40 now times that by 10 for a million and I profit $784.00 I would call that more than FREE! I have been buying pop-unders for three years and the math works! Plus generally you get a deal for buying ONE MILLION so the profit goes up to $884.00

I make a different pop page for each campaign that way I can track the results for each pop-up company.

My attitude is that if your paying more than $8.50 per thousand... your paying too much!

Later,

Nick

[ReviewGolf.com]

Mr. Bill,

I have found over years that there are two things: TRAFFIC and QUALITY TRAFFIC.

There are bunch of companies that promise you TRAFFIC, often for a nominal feel. Whether they really drive traffic by means of coercing their visitors with pop-ups or trick them with false promises I do not know. You money usually go in an instance and after that it is all dry again.

Now, QUALITY TRAFFIC does not come free. The best source, like it is mentioned above multiple times is a result of CPC advertising. Google and Overture are the two we use that bring us sales. If that's what you're looking for, start there.

[hbonline]

I agree with reviewGolf.com

My site is a little different in that everyone is a potential visitor, a golf site for instance is not for everyone. It is the difference between targeted traffic and non targeted. If your selling a product you need TARGETED if your gathering viewers go with popunders.

If 990,000 don't like my site out of a MILLION I still got 10,000 and for my site, that is worth it!

You need to choose what your after, Sales or Visitors, I am after visitors... I don't sell anything.

Nick

[voodooboy]

I'm seeing a lot of talk about pop-unders. Please explain the ROI you receive and the overall value.

I know that most of the people I work with (in a company of over 400 people) as well as the members in my family watch our task bar. If I get an extra window, I right click and close the window from the task bar. I never see it. But you pay for it. And what about the major ISP's installing pop-up blockers? They block the pop-up when it recognizes that another window is being called. If the pop-under is being called by a script within a web site someone is viewing, then the server that is running the ad program gets a hit for that ad. Whether it opens or not, it still gets a hit to the server calling for that ad. So you get charged for a ad that never opens.

Please inlighten us. Tell us how this could be a viable marketing tool in todays world with all the software (available from your ISP or downloadable for free) that blocks this type of marketing.

[atwhatcost]

I sure hope no one gets offended, but I'm not even a Web Designer Newbie! I'm just a woman with a strange passion for a few stuffed animals in my life! (Yes, obviously, I'm strange, however, harmless. LOL)

That being said, I've seriously gotten carried away in making a semi-personal web "den" with a nonfinancial (although I'm not opposed to gaining money through it) purpose. It's about my Teddy Bears and their family, and is for the amusement of other Teddy Bear lovers and children. It has its own niche' with its own webring that, unlike other Teddy Bear related webrings, in that we won't include Teddy Bear Artists, if their site is selling. Matter of fact, we won't let any sites in our webring if they are for selling something to do with Teddy Bears. And, of course on the other hand, that means since it's not profitable (and I'm very poor at the moment--American style poor, not Third World Country poor LOL), I can't afford to spend any money to advertise it.

So, I'd like to add one very strange caveat to the original question posted and ask, "What is the best way to generate traffic that cost no money?!

Lynn (aka Spaulding and Teddy's Mommy)

http://spauldingtbear.tripod.com/spa...den/index.html

[Linda Buquet]

I love this topic so let's keep in going and help each other by sharing ideas.

REMINDER - advertising and self promotion is not allowed so share your ideas, link to OTHER sites and resources but not your own. You can advertise in your sig but the body of the message should not be used for promoting your own site.

Don't want to be a thread killer but someone already complained about this topic getting a little spammy.

Let's keep sharing!

Thanks!

[malcolm]

Fair comment. We all just want the same thing huh? Good, targetted traffic. Let's stay focussed on what really works.

malc

[Stevo]

Hi All,

Been listening in and wanted to thank everyone for all the great ideas. I lost a lot of faith in SEO after then whole 'miserable failure' google search returning George Bush's biography as #1 and Googles erratic results and our being in and out almost weekly.

I've been looking into paid advertising (both to boost clicks through and SE performance) and the ideas here have really helped. Just wondering, does anyone know of any specific reports, mag articles, etc, that point to benefits of PPC and similar? Its just our management is much harder to convince than i am. =)

Cheers,
Steve

[bpjcenterprises]

If you need real Web Site Traffic you can obviously do the Search Engine thing but some people just do not have a clue how to do it (title, description, keywords, alt image tags etc.). Now if you can find a service out there that offers quality paid traffic that starts the same day after you pay them with a LIVE Statistics section (that shows you when and where your traffic came from) then go for it. If you have a great Web Site Hosting Service then you will have a great Statistics section that you can go to and find out where your traffic is coming from, how many pages that they viewed, how long they viewed them and the like. You better have a hosting account that offers you at least 5 GB of bandwidth per month if you buy a lot of traffic though. Paid Guaranteed Visitors really does work. Some services let you set the amount of hourly visitors by yourself (e.g. 100 visitors per hour - more or less visitors per hour as you see fit) and some do not. If you have a cheap hosting service that does not come with a decent Statistics section then you can put a hit counter in your Web Site and that will help. Another method for traffic is by signing up for a great FREE 100% Optin Safelist that will let you blast your message or ad to thousands of other safelists (where each other safelist has thousands of members) with 1 click of the mouse. But what do I know about getting 5+ gig's of Guaranteed Visitors per month? A lot I tell ya'!

[atwhatcost]

It wasn't my intension to promote my site, yet, you're right, it sure did do that anyway. It was unintensional, but I'm sorry. Will work harder at not doing that again.
Lynn

[voodooboy]

Originally Posted by atwhatcost

It wasn't my intension to promote my site, yet, you're right, it sure did do that anyway. It was unintensional, but I'm sorry. Will work harder at not doing that again.
Lynn

Lynn,
It was not you that Catalyst was referring too. You are fine. It was bcjsenterprises last post, which she deleted, that was the cause of the notice.

It is funny though, that bcjs's newest post is no better than the last as all he did was cut and paste all the content from his home page here, displaying everything he offers.

So Lynn, you are fine. It is bcjs that needs to watch it before he gets booted out for excessive spamming.

[hbonline]

atwhatcost:

for FREE I would join an exit exchange or start one yourself. Generally for every 2 visits to your site you will earn a credit which will display your site on another as a popunder all for free!

Many of the exchanges offer FREE credits just for joining! some as much as 1,500! To be really sneaky you could join lots of them and get lots of FREE credits, then choose the one you want to stick with.

just do a search for exit exchanges, start exchanges or popunders.

I would just pay instead of signing up for the exchanges like I said before you can get 10,000 for as low as $7.95

later

Nick

[marymartin281]

Reply to Cactus Jack...

I find that pay per click is the best traffic so far, but...I also try to join and participate in several forums. A good one to advertise your business, build contacts and meet new people is www.ryze.com. It is free to low cost. I also advertise in newspapers and magazines although this can get expensive. I think it helps to have a domain name that either tells people what they want to see or one that will pique their curiosity to see what it's all about.

I hope this helps.
Mary Martin
www.marymartin.info

[ireneherz]

I've gotten some decent free traffic from banner exchanges. For a list of several of them, see http://havingmyownwebsite.net/sitemarketing.htm, left hand column.

I signed up for an affiliate program, but it looks to me like i'm getting a lot of autoclicks for which I'm paying thru the nose. Probably why most advertisers choose to pay per sale, not per click!

[webmaster80]

I've setup my website from scratch and learned the term 'search engine friendly' at a later stage. My conclusion about creating web visibility, though could be over-generalised:

1. Get the website listed in www.dmoz.org. Once listed, the site will also appear in google and yahoo directory. Make sure the site description is good and final as changing it later is difficult.

2. Optimize your website, make it search-engine friendly. This takes time & effort, not something you can do it at the start and then forget it. I removed javascript; I created webpages with no parameters (my site uses asp with "?" and "&" for optional settings) for important pages. I notice pages with parameters gets less weightage.

3. Offline advertising ROI is really low; I'll never try again. I tried online media release at www.internetnewsbureau.com; this may have indirectly helped in my site listed in dmoz. Also listed in MSN portal for 3 months; I assume this could creadibility for search engines.

Four months after my website launch, my site got listed in dmoz, the traffic from search engine shoot up.

I got in the first page of google for several keywords but to my disappointment, the unique IPs, till today, is only around 300 (excluding search engines) a day. I expected a lot more.

I'm staring at my website everyday to get new ideas of attracting traffic. I've not tried google adwords but looks highly viable; I'll try it sooner or later.

Larry, Newlook Marketing
http://www.newlook.com.sg
A Hosiery and Socks specialty store

[jackson992]

Unfortunately for affiliates it is almost impossible to get into DMOZ. I submitted my newer sites but I don't expect to get in