Help! My website pages are loading really slow

sheerheight · #1 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 06:38 AM

Hello!
I am really a gynecologist but over the past year I have been building up a website - for pregant women who speak German. I am still building it and using a cms system - I have and am really happy with this firms reliability and help etc. However one big thing is bugging me - they can`t seem to find out why the site pages load so slowly. Can anyone help me? I cannot imagine that there is no quick solution. I do have a lot of fotos on the site - but then again so do many sites and they still load fast.
My site is: www.mutterpass.de
and the site within the site: www.frauenfachaerzte.de
I have been to a website that checks the site loading time - and it doesn`t seem slow when checked. However many users have complained it takes just too long. This means I have possible clients who just hit the back button or fly off after waiting too long. I have quite a few visitors per day and they`re all potential customers.
Woudl appreciate any ideas. Thnx
Julia

Webnauts · #2 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 08:42 AM

I had a quick look at www.mutterpass.de and to be honest I was shocked.

Have you done the site yourself? At least I can tell that is was not made by a professional designer for sure. And you have a very very long way to go.

1. Downloading times:

The page size is 267444 bytes!!! That should never be more than 100000 bytes in concerns of accessibility & Usability, also for Search Engines.

The CSS file size alone is creasy: 65682 bytes

Modem 56K = 53.70 seconds
ISDN 64K = 33,44
ISDN 128K = 16.72 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps = 1.82 seconds

See yourself: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/s...mutterpass.de/

2. Markup (HTML,etc)

To be honest I looked into the code, and I did not understand how the site works at all! Any anyway 43 fat errors!

Here are the HTML validation results of W3C: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...tterpass.de%2F (endless of errors)

Also here is the validation of your CSS files: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...s%2Feditor.css (endless of errors)

3. The header graphic weight is huge. Did you forget to optimize it? Is weights 65.71 KB (67292 bytes).

And images weight overall are incredibly high: 155195 bytes!

If you want my advise, you seriously need a redesign.

It can look like it does so far, even if somethings there I would strictly not recommend to have them, but this is not the site reviews forum, so I stick to your question.

If you need a site review, please post in our site reviews forums.

By the way may I ask you, where is Heinsberg? I live in Germany since 10 years, now in Bielefeld NRW, about 100km south from Hannover. :)

davebarnes · #3 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 11:11 AM

Julia,

It is slow because of the CMS that you are using.

Either the CMS itself is slow or the hosting providing is slow.

Create a test page (without using the CMS) that contains 200KB of text and images and see how fast it loads.

If slow, then it is the hosting provider.

,dave

P.S. Of course all that Webnauts wrote is also true.

sheerheight · #4 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 03:35 PM

Thnx Webnauts & Dave,

I feel a bit awful at the moment - and will have to digest what you have both written - and then I`ll have to get back to the firm who helped me build the website and check out some of these details.

Thnx
Julia

Webnauts · #5 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 10:51 PM

Oh, this is made by a company? I honestly did not think so. Sorry for that.

Anyway it would be nice if you would keep us up-to-date what is coming next.

If you need any further support, please let us know.

We would be very glad if we can help you out!

sheerheight · #6 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 04:03 AM

Hi,
no the company has made the cms system and I built the site using the cms system. I myself`thought/think it`s a good idea and a nice website. Your ARE making me feel awful -
it`s not that bad - anyway from the content etc. I cannot judge the way it`s put together.
Thnx for the constructive tips though!
Julia

Webnauts · #7 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 04:09 AM

Julia, I did not want to upset you. The site look very beautiful, but the code is seriously bad: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...tterpass.de%2F

By the way with that code, I do not think you have good chances with all search engines, at least not in long-terms, but I think you possibly don't care about that.

After all, I was just willing to help. But OK. I will not make any further suggestions or comments in this topic. :)

sheerheight · #8 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 04:24 AM

ooops
no really I want comments otherwise I woudln`t be here! I`ve read dozens of webdesign books etc. And I am afterall not a webdesigner just a doc with some ideas.
May I ask what you mean by code?
Sorry if I`m not very bright with these things but I am definitly here to learn. I am not HAT upset. I want to make things better. Any professional advice is well needed and deperately wanted!
So, please help me!
Do you mean with code - what pops up in the Browser thingy. The Page name so to say. Or what is it you mean?
Grüsse Julia

sheerheight · #9 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 04:27 AM

sorry didn`t mean HAT but THAT
the firm has actually made the website a bit faster now since Monday!
reagrds
Julia

sheerheight · #10 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 04:30 AM

wow, you have a fantastic website with great tools - I will have to look into that! But I also see you do search engine optimization - that`s what I need -
will contact you throgh your website for an offer I can`t refuse (hopefully)
regards
Julia

Webnauts · #11 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 04:46 AM

Aha! Now I see were the main disaster is. It is that you have implemented the SitePal totally wrong!

You embedded in your html documents this:

Line 85:

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html lang="de">
<head>
<meta name="generator" content="SELLTEC CMS System" />
<object id="VHSS" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" width="200" height="150"><param name="movie" value="http://vhost.oddcast.com/vhsssecure.php?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fvhost.oddcast.com%2Fgetshow.php%3Facc%3D31087%26ss%3D567513%26sl%3D0%26embedid%3Dae4443fdd12f02142c7200a787e50642&edit=0&acc=31087&loading=1&bgcolor=0xFFFFFF&firstslide=1" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="scale" value="noborder" />
<param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" />
<embed src="http://vhost.oddcast.com/vhsssecure.php?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fvhost.oddcast.com%2Fgetshow.php%3Facc%3D31087%26ss%3D567513%26sl%3D0%26embedid%3Dae4443fdd12f02142c7200a787e50642&edit=0&acc=31087&loading=1&bgcolor=0xFFFFFF&firstslide=1" swliveconnect="true" name="VHSS" quality="high" scale="noborder" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="400" height="300" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" />

</object>
<title> </title>
<script type="text/javascript" src="/lib/FCKeditor-2.3.1/fckeditor.js"> </script></head>
</html>

Replace the code above with this one:

Code:

<object id="VHSS" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" width="200" height="150"><param name="movie" value="http://vhost.oddcast.com/vhsssecure.php?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fvhost.oddcast.com%2Fgetshow.php%3Facc%3D31087%26ss%3D567513%26sl%3D0%26embedid%3Dae4443fdd12f02142c7200a787e50642&edit=0&acc=31087&loading=1&bgcolor=0xFFFFFF&firstslide=1" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="scale" value="noborder" />
<param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" />
<embed src="http://vhost.oddcast.com/vhsssecure.php?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fvhost.oddcast.com%2Fgetshow.php%3Facc%3D31087%26ss%3D567513%26sl%3D0%26embedid%3Dae4443fdd12f02142c7200a787e50642&edit=0&acc=31087&loading=1&bgcolor=0xFFFFFF&firstslide=1" swliveconnect="true" name="VHSS" quality="high" scale="noborder" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="400" height="300" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" />

</object>

Let me know when you have fixed this so I can tell you what else we might can improve.

sheerheight · #12 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 05:02 AM

Hi,
thnx, I don`t know if I can just swop that -I have a HTML Eingabe Box that I can use - will it work?
I`ll try it
Julia

sheerheight · #13 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 05:08 AM

I`ve copied and pasted the code u gave me -
regards Julia

Webnauts · #14 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 05:22 AM

Julia it did not work. Would you ming calling me?

Webnauts · #15 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 05:23 AM

Julia it did not work. Would you mind calling me? 0521 - 325 99 99

It will be much easier to explain.

Webnauts · #16 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 07:11 AM

Julia,

first it was very nice to talk to you on the phone.

I tested your page loading time issue, and I found that you do not have problems with your multimedia script SitePal.

Such files may range between 4000 to 20000 bytes, and your is 20414. So that is fine.

Your problem is that the weight of images is extremely large. The images need to be optimized!!!

They weight 123308 bytes!!!

If you optimize your images properly, your page will speed up dramatically.

sheerheight · #17 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 11:13 AM

Hi thnx a billion
but how do I optimize the pictures without losing picture quality?
Or is that a different forum?
regards
Julia

Webnauts · #18 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheerheight

Hi thnx a billion
but how do I optimize the pictures without losing picture quality?
Or is that a different forum?
regards
Julia

You have two options:

Or I can try to optimize them for you, or you have to ask in the Graphic/Design Forums.

The first case might be easier and faster.

Let check what I can do now. BRB.

Webnauts · #19 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheerheight

Hi thnx a billion
but how do I optimize the pictures without losing picture quality?
Or is that a different forum?
regards
Julia

Reduced to 1/3: http://www.seoworkers.com/images/img_company.png

Could not go more as it was loosing quality into .png format.

But!!! I could compress much more into .jpg format, which would be more appropriate to use.

Here you can download 4 of them in a zipped folder, so you can choose the quality level you prefer: http://www.seoworkers.com/images/julia.rar

Let me know if things worked out.

And when you replace the image, see how your pages will load. :)

sheerheight · #20 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 01:11 PM

HI,
thnx
I can`t open the .rar image - will have to search first and find out what I need for that
will let you know if it works well
thnx
ragards
Julia

Webnauts · #21 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 01:14 PM

Wait! I will make it .zip.

Now go to: http://www.seoworkers.com//images/julia.zip

sheerheight · #22 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 01:20 PM

u´re quick!

will unpack and change and see
(sounds like I just came back from holiday!)

sheerheight · #23 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 01:22 PM

done!
I took the 20,6KB one
Is it faster???