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Old 04-27-2004, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by imagolfer
I am not complaining that my site does not come up under the Adwords ads, THEY DO. My site does not show up in the regular listings anywhere within google's listings, UNLESS YOU ENTER MULTIPLE SEARCH TERMS. Then I rank #1, but the adwords do not show up and they should not show up unless you enter one keyword search term.
I've looked at your screen capture, I've also done some quick searching and taken some time to look at your site. What I see is that your front page appears to be reasonable on the front end, with several mentions of golf course, Tyler, Texas which is where I started my own searching.

When I peeked at the source, however, I was horrified. It was quickly apparent that the web editor you use creates an awful lot of mess in your code that I recommend getting rid of or at least trimming down. Google's spider may not even see any of your content because of all the code it has to sift through to find it. Your index page does not validate and requires a plugin, both of which may cause trouble for Google's spider. In addition to these potential difficulties, when I checked for backlinks to your site I came up with a grand total of 1. From WebProWorld, as a matter of fact. While links from WebProWorld are certainly links and should count for something, it can be expected that the value should be fairly low based on the dissimilar 'themes'.

In all, I think it is preposterous for you to feel like your site should show up for single search terms above other sites which are better optomized for those terms like golfcourseportal.com which comes up first in a search for 'golf course tyler texas' (without the quotes) showing a listing of Pine Springs Golf Course.

Certainly when you begin to add more phrases or terms to your search that are on your site you will find yours floating to the top as you exclude those which do not include the phrases or terms you are looking for as being less relevant.

My recommendation is to spend time on cleaning the code of your web site, optimizing for those key phrases that bring you the most traffic (which can be determined from the successes of your paid listings) and generally work toward making your site better for both the Search Engines and your visitors rather than trying to find conspiracies that simply don't exist.

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Originally Posted by imagolfer
The point is google is manipulating their search results by requiring a searcher to enter THREE or more search terms to locate my site.

Visit the page with the link provided and see all the pictures of my browser and www.googlerankings.com browser and see if there is not manipulation by google.
This does not show any form of manipulation. I cannot fathom how it is that you make a leap from your poor ranking to manipulation except that you would prefer to blame Google rather than yourself for poor rankings. I honestly do not mean to be insulting in any way, but your site needs a great deal of work from an SEO perspective. (Mine does too!)

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Originally Posted by imagolfer
I am in the top five with MSN and Yahoo with each of my search terms. I was listed with google UNTIL I signed up with google's adwords program.
This is entirely irrelevant. There are certain things that are common between each of these and other things that are completely different. I have many top spots in Google that I don't have with MSN or Yahoo and vice versa. I would love to think that I knew how to please them all every single time, but I don't and until I do I can expect my performance to be partly good fortune, but holding to some very basic tenets will certainly help anyone out with most, if not all, of the Search Engines.

1. Clean, understandable and validated code.

2. Content. Lots of it with your target key phrases in mind.

3. Links. High profile sites are better. Sites in the same industry as you are better. Sites that you do not have to link back to are safer. There is no penalty for being linked to.

4. Patience. Do something. Wait. Watch. Tweak. Move on to something new.
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