I stopped using keywords and phrases over a year ago. I found myself spending more time trying to keep up with the ever changing alogs than actually designing sites for my customers. So I started doing some research using the search results generated from Google, Yahoo, and AltaVista. I typed a search phrase and visited the top 5 for each SE and discovered 90% of the results didn't have Meta Data at all. Thinking that was odd, I kept trying various other search terms. I eventually took my keywords meta tag out of my pages and after a month or so I noticed my site ranking within the top 3 at all 3 SE. Just thought you might find that interesting.