Yeesh this thread is almost 2 years old.

That said, James you're taking kgun's cite of a comparison between web 2.0 and ajax out of context. The 'first' use of the names are all he (or rather, his source at O'reilly) is asserting.

Also, every bullet point on that list is something that was either challenging or impossible with older versions of html table-based inline-style layouts and slower bandwidth except for the 'large type/massive fonts' items. The enhanced ability for designers to design pages has kept apace with the programmer's ability to program cloud-based web applications. In the average web user's mind, the two are not separate.

I'm okay with that. It's hard enough to visualize these applications of technology already; it would be even harder if you took the design 'face' of 2.0 away.

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