Hello I need some serious criticism on these. I am a web and production designer who has just recently found a love for doing logo design and more design dealing with typography. I am looking to get as good as I can at logo design so be honest and tear them apart please. Also, would you say these are more type treatments rather then logos? I have no idea.

This one is for my portfolio site that is not up yet
http://www.laceymstuart.com/logo_rev...enchcurves.png

and this one is for a children's TV show
http://www.laceymstuart.com/logo_rev...click_logo.png


Thank you!