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Old 08-06-2008, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: is outgoing links weakening me ?

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Originally Posted by ctabuk View Post
I have found a very good forum discussion on this topic - which I think needs to be read carefully and evaluated - some agree with my stance others do not.

How important are outbound links?
May be an old (2002) classic thread:

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Hi All,

Are outbound links good / necessary in order to improve my pagerank and my listing in Google?
My site has between 20-30 inbound links with pages with pageranks of 3 to 7. Is it important to link back to them?
Another question, how long does it take to get a pagerank in Google (it is grey at the moment)?
Thanks, Chris
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My view:
  1. I think the heart of the Google model is still votes / citatations / IBL's. I personally do not se a better model for a (non meta) search engine.
  2. The interent is still in its infancy: The XML family of technologies will revolutionize web linking etc. Little interest in that thread.
  3. Ignore the misunderstandings that have produced the present world. Look at that Google video Transclusion: Fixing Electronic Literature by Ted Nelson. Transclusion is a much broader concept than direct linking in and out as it is done today. Digital books have a large advantage compared to ordinary books, citations can be embedded directly in the book that cite with a link to the source.
  4. Some search engines may fear this model, since it will make things much more complicated, programming versus tagging and styling in todays web.
  5. Few sites have so many outbound links as mine. I collect, order and rank sites and pages for the surfer / browser and not for a bot. Easy to steal and copy like it is easy to copy Fidelity's investment portfolioes with a time lag. Some funds specializes (specialized) in that business. Sooner or later it is discovered.
  6. Read about my view on trustrank here: http://www.blognorway.com/ Do you trust a bot? I would not always.
My experience:
  1. I order my domains through a Norwegian registrar. When they come on the internet they have Google ToolbarRank of 4, since the regtistrar may have (had) a linking program if they host the site there.
  2. I host my sites by much cheaper hosters, and it is not long before the toolbar rank that you hate (sometimes for good reasons) is zero. So I could have hosted n sites there and sold them with a ToolBar rank of 4.
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Originally Posted by minstrel View Post
And you think that by including links to "expert sites" on your web page that you are going to enhance the PR or SE ranking of that page?

Source: Backlinking and smartlinks.

I liked this

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But apart from that you should think of your visitors before you think of the search engines. They should always have some good links to get away from a page. Sooner or later they will leave it anyway and it's best if they leave it in a positive and constructive way. So give them good and relevant links. Internal links or outbound links as best you can. Links that lead them to answers to those questions that are raised in their minds by reading your page. The better you treat your visitors the more of them will return.
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view from that thread. But that fits my model and not a software or bot model like Googles adaptive inverted link matrix model of the web.

Last edited by kgun; 08-06-2008 at 08:49 AM.
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