Thank you for clarifying that Peter, I didn't mean to imply that all web designers do not understand
SEO. I am a website designer myself and I designed my share of websites without knowing anything about
SEO, but I was not producing websites for business'. I'm not blaming any
SEO challenged website designer for causing any heartache. I am just saying that website designers that take on jobs for business', without making it known to the business owner, what
SEO is, and that
SEO, is not included with the design they are paying for, these designers are bordering on fraud in my opinion. All business' want to be listed somewhere(even if it is only for their company name), on the first page of the search engines. Selling a website with no
SEO included, to a business without making them aware of it before hand is like selling a knife to someone going to a fight without telling them before hand that they are going to a gun fight.