Quote:
Originally Posted by Tubby
peter said
"making paid (pr passing) link ads a lot less interesting to sell.'
I think I am the only contributor to this thread that actively sells links, or has openly said so. I am also one who has recently lost tool bar ranking (I have not accepted a connection between the two)
From where I sit there has been a distinct upsurge in buying links. More value has been added to the market price for lower value pr, and topic specific PR.
One problem with 'reading the scene' is that many many forums publish webmaster views and opinions. Many of these posts are simply what the webmaster felts like saying today. or comments on what other people have done said, thought. Or just the latest bandwagon..
We are lucky in this forum. we do have several Honest webmaster that write original words, based on personal experience.
If you do not sell links, and presume that those that do, simply sell high value for big dollars, you could be a long long way from reality and that your opinion is totally formed from the "whats been said". An nothing to do with the reality of sold links.
WPW, has thousands of members. . . How come I can only find me that says... "yes I sell links'
A few outspoken prominent SEO members are not the majority . . Each of our voices is just one person. How many lurkers are there, that have been scared into 'SHHHHHHHH mode'. "Fear as a tactic for reform, is unethical'
"Punished" - who chose that word? the choice of the word in itself hints towards attitude of disdain . |
Well, It used to be simple. You could make hundreds to thousands of dollars per page (!) by selling links. Don't look at me, as I have never rented a single link in my life. Not because I didn't want to, but because I don't have sites that are interesting enough to sell links in. I have seen in link broker sites that the prices went down. Even before Google started zeroing the ToolBar the heat on selling links was already up and prices went down.
You´re right everything is in hiding now. Most linkbroker sites don't show any information about the links they sell anymore. It's kind of funny. But I completely disagre with your "Fear as a tactic for reform" statement. It's the link seller's choice to be afraid. If he is afraid then he acknowledges he is doing something wrong... If he believes he is doing nothing wrong, then he won't be afraid.
It's not about the selling of links, it's about the selling of
PR passing links, which basically means selling
PR. If you place the links in non-indexable script or use a nofollow there is nothing to be afraid of.
Why people are so upset about it I don't get either. Google always has said they don't like selling links based on
PR. They never did much against it because they couldn't. Now that they can, its all the sudden the big bad Google that's not being fair?