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Old 06-02-2007, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by leadegroot View Post
Hi Webnauts, I assume you were talking to me?


Oh, I didn't mean to imply it was a perfect implementation, just that I found it unlikely that the intention was search engine spamming. I believe that this instance of the technique looks like it was intended to increase the accessibility of the page, not to spam the search engines.
Danny said above that his intention was not to spam search engines. But that the intention to increase accessibility cannot be the case. Sorry.

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Because all these things need to be judged on a case by case basis, you can't apply a blanket rule - sometimes this is done ethically to increase accessibility, sometimes it is used to spam search engines. Sometimes the intention is one, but a low skill levelonly manages to come up with the other
Well reading the post of Danny above, it is obvious to me that this instance is the low level skill of his designer. Something like that can never be just a flippancy mistake.

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Heck, I just googled for image replacement accessiblity and got a whole bunch of results discussing this.
The state of the industry is that quite a few of the image replacement techniques aren't accessible at all! But that doesn't mean we don't keep trying
Sure we have to go on trying. But before implementing, testing with users with disabilities, and not the way around.

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The post itself wasn't.
LOL

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The majority of the responses were *shock gasp but, but I am using a very similar technique to make my page more accessible! Matt! Tell me you won't penalise me for that!!!'
The comment I pointed to was from Matt himself clarifying this.
Some people tell a lot when the day is long. I am very careful about unofficial statements of search engines employees. I often cached up many contradictions in statements of an employee himself, or between employees of the same search engine.

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From Danny's comment, I would guess that he isn't that up to date with accessibility.
Web design is a big field and he has specialised in the SEO end
Accessibility is not just a design issue. Accessibility is not only an issue for people with disabilities.

It is advanced on-site search engine optimization, and is the most effective technique?
Why?

Because crawlers suffer from three different disabilities:
  • They are blind;
  • They are deaf;
  • They are dyslexic.
I would suggest you and everybody else on this thread to take a minute to read this article: Reality SEO - Search Engine Commentary: Marriage of SEO & Accessibility Prevents Lawsuits, Increases Visibility

Just my two cents.
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