Thanks for the input. As for flash, all new machines bought in the stores come with flash installed as a basic plug-in, similar to machines coming stock with quicktime, or real player. I have a PC, shipped with IE7 and flash standard. I see a time for change on the horizon, and for the most part, media and graphics firms are running mac's, production firms are running macs, and our clients are running PC's w/ firefox. Downloading flash player is the same as having to download quicktime, and for video content flash offers must better resolution and much better streaming capabilities. I understand you statistic, but it is off, and people should learn that Standards Based browsers are the way of the future. Why not put the word out to those who are stuck in the past, and deal with one version of IE. The standards compliant version 7. Although still in the Beta 3 testing phase, IE7 is up there with Firefox and with Opera and Safari. I understand that 50% of people run IE5 - 6, yet there are way to many bugs to deal with when the company you works for has a somewhat limited budget and also run IE7.