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Originally Posted by SPC2
It sounds like it's the searching technique that's not so good ;)
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If that's the case, then put together some search terms and find me at least three good sites on what I was looking for. What a coincidence that those terms I used for the search engines that produced useless results are actually the same terms I used in Dmoz's search engine that took me to the 30 sites I browsed for information. My point in the part you bolded was that you don't know exactly the type of information I was looking for, so you can't then do a search and tell me you found some quality sites because you don't know if they contain the information I was searching for. So, are you going to take me up on my offer? It wasn't the search terms that were erroneous, it was the spammy results and many contentless pages. And, what would your search terms be for someone who's looking for a tutorial on how to install Apache server that's not from the official Apache site?
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Originally Posted by SPC2
Just about everything in forums about DMOZ is in the way of being moans and complaints. Corrupt editors have been discussed for a long time - sometimes started as sour grapes, by an editor who has been kicked out. But some of the arguments are started by editors - including metas. Some of them have an attitude that everyone is against them, so they start out on the attack (being the best form of defense), when no attacks were made. I've seen that happen.
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Notice they're
SEO forums where webmasters and
SEO types complain about issues that Dmoz editors don't really care about. Therefore, their complaints really don't matter to Dmoz. It usually starts with a webmaster making an over-generalized comment about all Dmoz editors that can't be substantiated because it's based on nothing but speculation and the fact that their site isn't listed. Dmoz editor corruption was started by webmasters who didn't have their website listed and thought it was due to a competitor maliciously keeping it out of the directory.
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Originally Posted by SPC2
If I haven't heard that news, I shouldn't be in this business ;) But Google doesn't exactly support the tag - they invented it. It doesn't change what I said, though. My best guess is that Google keeps the ODP data to use the descriptions as snippets when they best suit the searchterm.
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The Dmoz description won't be used if the NOODP tag is used. What a coincidence that, according to you, Google "introduced" the tag, but MSN began supporting it first. Please show me where Google officially say they invented the tag, although that's an irrelevant point, but since you brought it up, I really want to know. Here are two links to start you off.
Google's official "support" of the NoOdp tag. Notice they use the word "support" on the blog. And,
MSN's official announcement that they're introducing the tag to be used in single webpages. Please point me to any official Google documentation that they invented the tag, and not some hearsay you heard on someone's blog.
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Originally Posted by SPC2
Because it's off the Google front page means absolutely nothing. It means that they downgraded it. I.e. they no longer considered it important enough to them to have it on the front page.
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Have you taken the time to look at Google's front page lately? There is virtually NOTHING there! Virtually all of Google's links are 1 click away from the frontpage, which isn't bad at all. So, has Google now downgraded everything? According to your line of logic they have. Again, because Google's directory, like virtually every link that was once on the frontpagae, is now on the second page is meaningless. Has Google decided that all their links are now not important enough to put on the frontpage? Heck, on my website I had links on my frontpage, but when I re-designed the website I moved those links to anther page 1 click away. I guess that means they no longer play a pivotal role on my website? Um, no. It means, I only wanted to change things around, which is, in reality, a non-issue. That's a big jump to say that because Google moved it's directory, like all of it's other links, off the frontpage, that now those links are considered unimportant to be on the first page. I can't follow that logic at all.