wrmineo lol things seem to be moving along ok, got http://bikershell.com up to a 9.25/10 rating on the reportcard..not sure if thats a good thing or not lol but im plugging away..please feel free to slip me a note if you see something im doing ;) i shouldnt be,I figure after I'm done this,,http://rnrewebsite.com should'nt be to bad to do lol..Thanks agian for all your help, you and ctabuk,