flood6, we have very similar attitudes! Minstrel is the guy who said that, it sounds like. I always defend M$ for playing 'the game' and being an example of free enterprise. A little mix of ethics in there, a little less short sighted greed, and I am capitalist all the way.

I am a geek too, and I am looking forward to learning some borland or such right away. Then I will be able to compile code.

I've used Java SDK and Netbeans for java applets, and it is a thrill to have something work that you've compiled. I am actually pretty happy if my divs line up, also. LOL