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Old 03-30-2005, 12:35 AM
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While I certainly don't have time to go point-by-point, I'll just mention that the RSA thing you mentioned is what this thread is about. It's the same story Chris mentioned in the original post.

Second, I'll go ahead and say it: Anyone who says "Stats Don't Lie" is wrong. Not opinion, no question about it, wrong.
Okay, I thought that, it is on a Linux site, so I was just impressed with the report and how it was presented being there. And I couldn't agree more, stat CAN lie, and it is almost a science these days to manipulate them. Further more, some methodologies are hard for most to understand at all, let alone interpret.
That said, they don't all lie. But the confidence in them is justifiable low, that is for sure.
I was too harsh criticizing people for using others evaluations to support their arguments. I do it, I am emotional.
(If I am out of line, I stand to be corrected, anytime, please just say so. It is fun to get angry, but I always feel bad afterwards. Enough excuses, it is my responsibility, not yours!)
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Most Linux users have used Windows before, most Windows users have never used Linux. That automatically makes the average Linux user more informed and able to compare the two than the average Windows user.
I have to give you that one, it is a very good point. I have my own experiences with both, and windows is much more usable ie. interoperability between programs and most importantly, intuitive structure and naming for file system.
The Windows documentation blows Linux distros away.
But of course then I am getting into desktop users category, and not sys and network admins.
So when Linux users say they find Linux more secure and more powerful, I understand that. They are not your average users either, more adept at programming and setting up security.
That is the main reason I keep at it (when I can) by trying distros out, and learning Linux here and there.

I want Linux to be accessible to everyone! I greatly fear monopolies, and I love the idea of a community co-operating and working together. That is why I think it is important to realize that there is a way to go before Linux is will make big market gains. I am about to try ubuntu as soon as I download it. Xandros is getting close, it has a magnificent help/getting started manual that is apparent.(Easy to see it is there/find)
Lets face facts so it can be improved, and not worry about Microsoft's ethics and exaggerate the shortcomings of Windows. It is the only way (IMHO).


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Finally, I'll concede that the vocal Linux superfans don't do anyone any favors when they spout "Linux is better, Windo$se suXor" type of statements. I can understand sharing an opinion, but being a blind zealot is just foolish. Blindly defending Windows simply because doing so puts you in the minority is equally foolish.

I like Linux much more than Windows. I have found it better suits my needs on a desktop and to serve my sites. I'm not mad at Bill Gates, I don't think Windows users are automatically stupid. If someone enjoys using Windows or any other MS product then they should keep using it.
YEAH!!! I also think criticism of both is necessary and to be encouraged.

Here is a link - I was reading about the new Mandrakelinux Corporate Server 3.0 on eWeek Linux.
I was looking at the ratings for each for 'security' and 'documentation' particularly.

I really want to support and encourage people yo make this kind of information common for all. I think it is the way to respectfully, and therefore adds mondo credibility, spread the Linux word.

I am sure people are leery to switch, or even think about anything in this area at all, if the 'information' is presented in a objective, non-judgemental (obviously biased or passionate) way.

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I can understand sharing an opinion, but being a blind zealot is just foolish. Blindly defending Windows simply because doing so puts you in the minority is equally foolish
Hahahaha.... GUILTY!
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