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Why do I get the impression WPW is turning into a tabloid?
I say consider the source when sweeping conclusions are made by some people. I cannot see where stating that DMOZ is crooked or this and that based on a personal experience has any relevance to a reasoned debate.
Every attempt at name calling and judgement denigrates the opinion giver, in my view. It just sounds to much like self pity and sour grapes. This thread is full of slanderous accusations and libel, and I am embarasses.
You are 100% correct, PNE, the more popular, and bigger a presense something is - organization etc. - the more people show up that have 'proof' of corruption.
In my experience, the ones who complain the most vehemently and make the damningest conclusions and judgements are painting a picture of their own beleifs and way of conduct.
I know two editors that bust their backs editing, and they are very considerate and honest people, IMO, but they never talk about corruption or fighting with the powers-that-be or other editors.
They tell of numerous and stiffling amounts of poorly thought out or outright fraudulent submissions that make it difficult to do their job properly.
There may be bad asses among the people at DMOZ, there are many places. But a full out conspiracy? That would mean that AOL and Yahoo and whoever else, Google perhaps, are all in cahoots?
Oh ya, I am not listed in DMOZ. I have felt frustrated a couple of times with submissions, but I never came to the conclusion that DMOZ is corrupt.
Can be improved? Sure. Corrupt? Prove it
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rich_ord
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Why do I get the impression WPW is turning into a tabloid?
WebProWorld is a forum for discussion. People have been stating their experiences with Dmoz and their opinions. That does not make WebProWorld a tabloid! Could you please show me excerpts of posts that make you come to this conclusion?
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Every attempt at name calling and judgement denigrates the opinion giver, in my view. It just sounds to much like self pity and sour grapes. This thread is full of slanderous accusations and libel, and I am embarasses.
I've read all of the Dmoz related posts and I think there has been a heavy dose of name calling by both sides. Using words like "self pity" and "sour grapes" and "slanderous accusations" are name calling by you. I don't believe it is appropriate to slam posters for their opinion in a forum. But, that's just my opinion, feel free to slam me for it.
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nowhere to be found. The infamoud 'cut'n'paste' dictionary post.
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gone, the one where he patronizes me with belittling remarks like 'thanks so much for providing the definitions blah blah.
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Not only allow and condone... encourage. You got 2 cents? Bring it. If it doesn't hold up it doesn't hold up. Here again, that's what a good forum does. If somebody brings some flimsy argument it aint gonna stand very long in an active forum. Precisely what you would want I would think. It's precisely what I want anyway.
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My arguments in reply to rich? Your reply to that?
Off topic now?
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Howdy Mike,
Quite frankly, I'm NOT disappointed and disillusioned with WPW or your take on forums or these DMOZ threads. I never thought I'd say this 'bout a coon-skin cap-wear'n dude from Kentucky, but I like your direct banter & honest human valuations here.
Who told you about my hat?
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Guidelines? What about the guidelines covering post deletion, the protocal for informing the members about what is happening with their posts?
When did this get put in?
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At this point, you are certainly welcomed and encouraged to continue participating in the forum. As long as things remain rational and civil, I'm up for anything. Things must remain rational and civil however...
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Damage control?
I have always, always, always, stood up for the membership here, and I have alwaysd fought for the integrity of WPW. I am not the only one, by any means.
But I also remember the episode when I was a mod, when I was upset over a dangerous post with a link to a site that downloaded trojans from GAIN and others.
I tried to get something done about that. I callesd someone on their lack of 'team spirit' in protecting the membership, and it got very ugly, very fast.
WHY DO PEOPLE GO SO FAR OUT OF THEIR WAY TO ESCAPE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY?
You want guidelines? Good, they give you credibility and respect when you stick to them consistently, if they are commendable to begin with.
But this treatment of me and other good people has to bew addressed. That is one guideline I suggest.
This is about providing a forum for members, for its marketting purposes or whatever.
Bad
PR comes from capricious treatment and standards. Enough people have notice, and these add up. Remember the CSS tutorial thing? I got emails asking what went on there. People notice.