I was prompted to come here for the first time by an email - must have been the same one - as a DMOZ editall the title seemed irresistable. Glad to see cbp doing a fantastic job in defense.

Editors do abuse their position in DMOZ - or there would be no need for an abuse procedure. All editors are encouraged to be vigilent and report abuse and so can anyone else. Where allegations are proven the editor is fired. If you have a complaint about an editor's actions report them, don't whine about them where nothing can be done. I am a webmaster and have listed my own sites. After listing dozens of direct competitors at the same time. It isn't done deceptively - we declare our affiliations. All editors can list their own sites if they have the rights and the site meets the same standards as everyone elses - it seems a fair exchange to me for hundreds if not thousands of hours of unpaid work on behalf of the end users.

We seem to hear a lot of complaints about how long sites take to be listed. But no-one ever comes to forums like this to say their site was listed in a day, or a week, or a couple of weeks. As many sites are listed within hours or days of submission as are hanging about for months and years. It all depends on the category, how much spam is in the way, how easy the site is to list - it is properly titled and described and do the title and description actually match the site, for instance. When you consider the sheer scale of the submissions received these complaints are few and far between by comparison. Four million sites listed? Not bad considering it is entirely the work of volunteers using their spare time.

When it comes to editor applications, and receiving no reply there was a bug a while back. There is nothing to stop anyone trying again - some editors have taken several attempts to get in. But if your primary aim is to list your site then run, forget it.

Like many others a large proportion of my work these days is running through categories clearing out junk, spam, and duplicate submissions. People submit their site a dozen times wasting an editors time that could have been spent listing the first one. As far as I'm concerned that puts them in the low priority bracket and others will get looked at first - fair's fair, if the others follow the rules and submit once, why should they be penalized because some idiot wastes an editor's time.

Yep, we're different. We're unique and there is no point in having yet another pay directory. We're also free - what do you want for nothing!

Keep up the good work cbp :-)