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Old 09-24-2004, 04:43 PM
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Here we go again - typical DMOZ bashing.

CRich - you need to first go to DMOZ and understand what the OPEN in Open Direcory Project actually means - bad title for article and bad journalism to misrepresent the "Open" - it has nothing to do with being open to accept listing, submissions etc

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How long should someone have to wait before they are approved, denied, or contacted about either?
This is based on the typical misuderstanding that DMOZ is some sort of listing service for webmasters. It is not.

Processing submissions is only a small part of the job of a DMOZ editor - its is the most inefficient and time wasting way an editor has to build category. I usualy prefer to initially ignore the submitted sites when I go in to work on a category. The sooner DMOZ turns off the <submit a site> function the better.

mawells wrote:
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Oh, I make the attempt to submit from time-to-time, but usually the categories I need to submit to don't have editors at all!
Where do peple get this stuff from? Every category has over 200 editors that can edit in it !!!!

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I've tried over a dozen times to get one of my client's sites moved to a more appropriate category or even get the description corrected with no success. (Again, no editor for that category.)
Having no editor has nothing to do with it. Maybe the reason is not good enough for a move. Have you done the right think and checked for the reason at the DMOZ forum for it not being moved? Why come and bash DMOZ here - you are doing your client a diservice by spamming DMOZ with over a dozen requests.

PDemester
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submitted under a heading only to learn 3 months later that the #3 player in my market was the editor
If you think that you have been disadvantaged by the editor being what you think is a competitor, there are polices and procedures in place to deal with this. What did they say when you went through these proper chanals? .... or are you just bashing DMOZ without having done this?

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After several months - I tried submitting the site again.
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I submitted another site we had - under the same categories
Thats called spam... you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.

peter(IMC)
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The whole goal of dmoz was never reached.
I don't quite follow the logic here... your site is not listed and the goal of DMOZ was never reached.

The goal of DMOZ is being reached, its just your service expectations are not being met. DMOZ is not there to service webmasters.

What increase in value is there to DMOZ to list your SEO site? There are alredy a 1000 listed .... what is the point in having 1001 - the editor is better of going to other categories.

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find sites with multiple listings
....and the problem with that is?

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Dmoz is the perfect example of why human intervention without any control doesn't work.
Huh? But, DMOZ is a human edited directory. If you wat automation, go to Google. Why would DMOZ want to automate? - we already have plenty of them

brian mcdonald
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i contact dmoz and was told there was nothing i could do to "prove" copyright infringement and as such there was no chance they would remove the offending site from their director
Which is right. How is DMOZ supposed to know which is the copy? Your competitor could be saying the same thing about you. I am sure the site will get dumped if there is some sort of legal proof. You need to pursue other avenues re the copyright and not blame DMOZ.

peakstudios
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went to that board asnd was told I was accepted over a year ago. I still haveen't been placed into the directory.
What were you told? Your site has not yet been "acecpted" ... you have been keeping the editors busy with all your spam duplicate submissions (if you are talking about the site in your signature).

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applied to become an editor since the editor wasn't doing thier job. I was rejected by the editor of that area.
Not true.

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found it strange that the same person that's not doing the job imediatly rejected me
Absolute rubbish. That editor would have had nothing to do with it.

yellek228
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I was told that they received my submission and I am not to inquire again for 6 months. Now, if these editors are so busy that it will take 8 months to get one site reviewed
I am getting a little tired of repling to factual errors - again is is just plain wrong.
Who said it will take another 6 months to get listed? Please get your facts right. You were told you can ask again in 6 months about the status if you were not listed - that has absolutly notng to do with when you wil get listed. If editors did not tell those over at resource zone to check back in 6 months, they will be spending all there time responding to status submission requests.

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Any company who canaccept you but doesn't post you because of competion, shady practices
What was the response that you got from the DMOZ abuse reporting process to you complaint?

miss_beth
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told me that I'd been denied because my site was too much like so many others and not to waste time resubmitting
Which is correct. DMOZ is not a free listing service. DMOZ is trying to build categories of valuable rsources. What is the point in listing serveral sites in the same category that have pretty much the same content or offer pretty much the same product. What is the value to the DMOZ user?
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but if someone doesn't have the time or desire to do the job, then why do they volunteer or continue to keep the volunteer position?
So we come back to this one again ... if I volunteer at a soup kitchen one day a month, am I being lazy if I do not do 2 days a months. Is a volunteer editor being lazy if hey only add one site a month instead of 2? - they still have added value to the directory.

damarzee
Your site is not was removd and will not listed as it is just a collection of links - has no content of its own.

peakstudios
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are they giving us false information in their policies?
Back again for more. What false infrmation? You are the one above not being truthful.

Also you need to go and look up what the "open" in Open Directory Project means - get YOUR facts right.
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Is not anyone getting tired to of DMOZ bashng? - espcially when its based on so many factual errors that have come out in this thread and none of tskis actually constructive.

Anyone also notice that it is only webmasters that whinge about DMOZ? I have never ever seen a single complaint from a DMOZ user.

To sum up:
1) Webmasters want a free listing from volunteer editors
2) DMOZ wants to build categories of valuable resources for the DMOZ user

These two are not compatible.

At the end of the day:
DMOZ is the largest direcory and no other directory comes close (almost 4.5 million sites)
DMOZ is the fastest growing directory and no ther directory comes close (2000 sites a day).

It is also free ... if you are unhapy about the service you get try asking for a refund.

CBP
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